37) His disciples said to him, "When will you be visible to us,
and when shall we behold you?"
He said, "When you strip naked without being ashamed, and
take your garments and put them under your feet like little
children and tread upon them, then you will see the child of the
Living, and you will not be afraid."
The area I live in is a haven for fundamentalist Christians, who live their life by making Jesus a GOD instead of philosopher; teacher; a person with a way to a better life.
Yes, John 3:16 is their mantra of life. But unfortunately it misses the entire message of even what’s in the rest of the new testament that does makes sense in accordance with the laws of human nature.
The man Jesus aka Yeshua’s real reported message is there is a higher power in this life, now, that a person can tap into to cure themselves of life’s ills.
Well, science does most definitely show that to be true in many ways now, as science indicates that attitude and stress itself is a killer of human beings, down to the destruction of the central nervous system, respiratory system, and cardio-vascular system too, as well as other bodily systems too.
Stress hormones are only truly meant for sporadic bursts of flight of fight.
Culture for thousands of years now, has been bringing illusory fears, to basically shorten the lives of folks concurrently with the technology of sanitation and medicine that lengthens life as well.
Jesus, the real man Jesus, as indicated in earlier text than the Roman Catholic and Roman Empire twist for power ways, basically says forget the lies of culture, you have the power in your self, to heal your self, and yes, science does indicate this as true; all you have to do is get in control of stress and don’t let it control you. Yes, hard to do, when a person is under control of other folks for their very subsistence of hand to mouth existence.
Well, anyway, the first Sunday of every month my wife’s relatives have us come to an elderly Baptist preacher’s family get together on his farm.
In his little church he went to the trouble of buying all the kids shirts that say: it’s not about me it’s about Jesus.
Well the problem about that is: Jesus is dead.
The kids are alive.
They have the opportunity to control and improve their life through the real human attributes of will, belief, faith, and hope. Yes, these are real human powerful emotions that emote aka as moving folks forward to a better life. But the power is all theirs, not a dead man that showed folks a way to get there through their own will, belief, faith and hope, and no one else but them.
It is about me.
Our Universes start and end with me.
But we connect too, to others too, and that is where love and empathy comes in, with science having a better understanding now of what makes human’s tick, in this way of love and empathy too.
Anytime a person personally attacks someone, I cringe a little bit, as it such an obvious indication that, that person only feels inferior.
In science, it is no part of science; emotionalism is all it is.
And there is absolutely no place for it, in formal debate.
And yes, the reason this forum can never be considered actual debate, as it is freely allowed here.
But never the less, this forum is one described as discussion; not debate; and yes discussion often includes personal attacks.
And yes, personally attacking one’s beliefs (i.e. you are a troll, moron, idiot, etc. for believing that way) is most definitely a form of that. A person is their beliefs; it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.
That’s why they say never discuss politics and religion with someone who you want to be friends with; you attack their soul, yes their figurative soul, and you get bit back; most often, if you attack their beliefs as belief’s are core to ‘soul’.
My religious beliefs about GOD as the GOD of nature are impervious to scientific argument.
But still, the Christian folks in my area, think I’m some kind of devil when I tell them in my shorts in 18 degree weather that I have developed the power to be impervious to these cold temperatures by the ‘all seeing power’ of the GOD of nature. I only giggle inside, not outside to make them feel bad; there’s not much flack they are going to give a 230LB martial artist.
No, I wasn’t always the alpha male by far; but per my GOD off nature it is definitely the best way to go in life; if you have the power within your will to make yourself the Alpha male. And no, don’t think you can’t; or you won’t. Even moving from totally disabled to that point at age 53 to 54 for me.
I believed; that made the difference. And no I wasn’t trying to be above anyone; it’s just how people view you when you are strong and fearless on the inside and outside too. That makes it even more fun, as I do not care if people show me respect non-verbally or verbally in real life, anyway. And yes, that too is part of what naturally makes me an Alpha male too. It’s just a part of nature. And oh my F**ning GOD NATURE is just as awesome as science.
And hell yes, if you don’t believe it, I have more than enough evidence on many places on the Internet to make you a believer on that one. The power of the Alpha male is proven as valuable as a real GOD of nature given talent. And respected everywhere a person goes in real life, too, most often.
And yes it is definitely on topic as Jesus said; basically you can do anything you want; with faith, belief and hope and most importantly the will of you and Mother Nature true aka GOD for me and many others too.
But on a scientific point; it’s not some supernatural magic; it’s epigenetics and neuroplasticity; if there is enough environmental challenge through adversity; either stimulated by the environment or you, change in adaptation both mental and physical does and will occur, as in our DNA we have the ability to un-domesticate ourselves, basically, and bring the inner ‘APE’ out, and yes retain civility too, as balance as well.
It’s what Yogi’s in the Tibetan Mountains do. And science does prove it out, as yes true in all of what human potential can be with Tibetan Yogi’s too.
And yes, Bruce Lee is another excellent example. He’s probably more like the real man Jesus, than anyone else in recent history.
They both have something in common; neither one believes in fundamentalist ways of religion. And both of them very much believe in me, and the GOD of nature too.
Be the water not the chalice rings true for both historical men.
And yes, words I live by every now of every now.
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And science..
Well..
Science provides a tremendous amount of evidence
for an interconnecting force of all things that connects us all..
Yes, in my opinion it all comes down to balance. Metaphors for Yin and Yang, Reason and Emotion, the divine masculine and feminine, all fit with this.
And any martial arts; most commonly TAI CHI, can achieve this balance in body and of course in reality mind and body are one; when body balances mind automatically balances in flow of balance, anxiety melts away, and positive energy remains.
Not unlike the planets above; and the waves below.
A balance is the wave to go; for full field of effect, if one considers our human being particles.
To use a physics metaphor too. 🙂
It’s all connected; the more I learn and stay open minded, the more I know this in practice and true affect and effect.
A balance is key in all things; inside, outside, as above so below.
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KATiE MiA FredericK!iI
Yes, I am aware of that, and I believe it is part of the Issue here. As countries provide greater social welfare there is a correlated drop off in organized religions as indicated in research into this area of interest.
When people do cooperate in relatively homogenous societies where subsistence is provided there is natural love shared and no need for anything else but love.
God is love in my opinion and this is how GOD naturally works per my classical pantheist beliefs.
The three letters GOD is meaningless to me, without that natural cooperation and sharing in unconditional love.
But now poorer folks from Muslim nations are immigrating there, and things are changing.
They are becoming pariahs not unlike the African Americans imported into the USA for slavery.
And yes, they believe in reproducing with no bars held so things will likely eventually change in the percentage category in the Netherlands; simple math there, as the reproduction rates among the indigenous population of the Netherlands is relatively much lower, as a cultural way of beliefs.
There’s a good reason for fundamentalist folks to be afraid of health care who make their lively hood off of religion in the US, but no; not likely that they get into niche information like this in a country of specialization rather than renaissance like knowledge.
The role religion plays in America, is one of gluing the heterogeneous subcultures together. One sees this in African American churches. One sees this in Catholic churches with Filipinos and Hispanic individuals as well.
The key issue is knowledge.
And in this case knowledge and scientific research indicates folks participate in these fundamentalist literal beliefs with extremely irrational literally believed myths for social acceptance and social support.
Science also indicates that people who have autistic leaning minds, including the broader autism phenotype can be very literal systemizing thinkers lacking cognitive empathy.
These challenges make it that much more difficult to gain social acceptance; the major factor of causal relationship in human happiness as researched by science.
Where autistic folks are people who perhaps are not diagnosed but think they may have this challenge are socially accepted in some very fundamentalist structured and organized churches where nerds are the norm instead of deviation; long dresses; thick glasses; etc. and robotic looking moves from a life spent not dancing as metaphor if you will; the environment is ripe for autistic leaning folks to be relatively happy there; who are not science oriented.
And yes; while there is a myth that folks who are diagnosed with higher functioning Autism are all the Science Technology and Mathematic leaning major types; this is far from the truth in science as science indicates actually only 33% are; many of the other folks are in the church pews on Sunday morning.
And yes, they inhabit many other areas of this forum; but obviously not here as they are not accepted and treated and referred to as ‘morons’, ‘idiots’, trolls, etc.
Well the truth is they are just naive autistic folks who need social acceptance more than most folks and are here to get that.
They have no idea what the environment is here against so-called GOD.
And actually that is a myth here too, in this PPR forum per science too.
Boston University did a peer reviewed study on atheism and higher functioning autism using data from this forum; which I will link here, and found only 26% of the individuals in this forum were atheist as compared to 17% in a so called neurotypical similar forum online.
The beliefs here are diverse; but the common element is still that most people even in this sub-forum of PPR, believe in or the possibility of some type of higher interconnecting force aka GOD in some circles, including me.
I believe the issue here is; most of the moderators are atheist as far as I know; and the commonly understood top ones are both atheist and from countries in Europe with better social welfare programs.
There is a catch 22 here; obviously I think, as relatively speaking there is an issue with cognitive empathy among many autistic folks as well as literal thinking non STEM major minds that are fundamentalist Christians.
Taken all these factors into account that I have taken some time and effort to both understand per my own lifelong struggles with understanding why folks don’t think as ‘smart’ as I do and the reality I live in, in the US, as well as presenting it here, in a way, that the STEM major, if you will, might understand to gain a greater cognitive empathy of what the whole picture is.
It’s very simple; many autistic folks are fragile; as they live a life of difficulty in gaining social acceptance; this includes both the folks who have been rejected in Christian churches as well the non-STEM major folks who retain a seat in Christian churches.
They deserve a little more respect and understanding in the human being kind of way, in my opinion, on an Internet site designed as a support site.
Science is a bridge to that, as well.
I was always a scientist.
But I am a philosopher too.
I’m in good company with folks like Einstein and Steve Jobs too. But the apple does not fall very far from the tree.
My grandfather was a relatively noted philosopher and speaker in his time; and yes he was actually acquainted with Einstein and had dinner with him as both men were in a relatively socially unaccepted field of political belief per socialism at that time in the New York, New York area, per the common welfare of the common man.
I try to bridge understanding. And yes, that definitely takes thinking and being different; and presenting the information in NOVEL ways.
I started writing poetically to get my readability statistics down. I’ve moved from around a 19-grade level per Microsoft word indicated readability levels statistics to around 9 now.
I’m finally learning how to communicate with the so-called common man.
It’s taken over 50 years to get there. It hasn’t been easy. But that is part of cognitive empathy and I do what I have to adapt as yes, I like being social accepted in the real off-line world and never expect to be accepted here as we generally do our monologues and real connection is very rare in this sub-forum, but abundant in some of the others were the non-STEM major types play in chit chat of small talk. Something I still have some difficulty doing in real life.
I like to talk about deep things, huh. 🙂
Obviously; and somewhat surprising to me; way too deep for some folks here, even in this sub-forum where one might hope there would be some plasticity toward different ways of thinking. But there’s not very much of that; and that is part of the beast of narrow literal type thinking, that is a challenge here to overcome.
But I’m used to challenges. I am no longer ever scared. I am scarred enough to no longer ever be scared, for now at least. 🙂
Named redacted, I’m not sure if you know or not, but Autism is a challenge of reciprocal social communication.
Dumping a monologue no matter what the topic is and not participating in the conversation is a textbook description of Autism.
It happens here in non-religious topics as well, if you haven’t noticed, all the time.
I notice stuff like that; as a detail oriented photographic memory type of person.
Not posting or responding at all and just reading what other folks write is also a textbook description of Autism.
This is Autism.
Plain and simple for those who understand what the textbook definition of Autism is.
And not understanding intent of other people is also Autism.
I mean no disrespect to you here. I am just trying to bridge understanding.
It might help if nameredacted could recruit some neurotypical moderators; but I do know how hard that can and will likely be, so I have cognitive empathy for that too.
And no, considering the administrative environment here, I do not blame you if you don’t give a f**.
Note: two asterisks not three. 😉
I do not think you are intentionally being mean to folks. But seriously, whether you realize or not, on a cognitive empathy level.
You are. Seriously, you are.
That’s my opinion, but I’m certainly far from the only one that holds it here, yes here.
I’m just not afraid to express it, as you hold no power over me, other than your threats to ban me, if I do not conform to your expectations of me, per going on with my rambling way of monologues; that is also inherently autistic as well, per my hyperlexic form of Autism.
And that is no power at all as I am only here to attempt to bridge understanding and help folks.
There are plenty of other places I can spend my time doing that, as well; if you cannot handle on a personal emotional level what I feel is a relative objective scientific truth, too.
That yes, I do provide documented evidence for too. And can certainly provide much more, on request, if you like.
That could be modified and improved, but that’s all up to you, at least in part, as moderator.
This is a place for all autistic people; I can only hope, If folks understand how diverse a spectrum it truly is.
Sincerely and respectfully, me; in hopes of providing a bridge of better understanding aka Cognitive Empathy.
Remarkable, yes; interesting, most definitely to me; coincidence, absolutely not, as some type of structured belief to guide the tribe is consistent across tribes since recorded history. Languages are different and people do become attached to their native language and religion is simply an extension of language for greater metaphors to understand human nature and be successful in life.
Human archetypes once thought to be an antiquated way of psychological science per the work of Freud and Jung are gaining ground again in science.
Interestingly, the broader autism phenotype and the relationship of difficulty with language and emotion per Alexithymia may be the source of much religion, per difficulties in understanding complex emotions, and providing external symbols to better understand and express complex and powerful human emotions.
The Gods of Greece and Rome, invented by intellectuals were symbols of human emotions, the struggles, and love that are part of the full human condition, of course with wisdom, dance, song, and poetry true per the GOD of Apollo, for example.
Stories of heroes have always been motivators for the human emotion of hope.
The lists goes on, but the highest power of emotion known as love, yes, fearless love, can be the most difficult emotion of all to understand or feel for some folks in life.
No, school doesn’t teach young folks about being human, per the philosophy of life; that comes as a potential elective in college, instead.
But the great thing about philosophy is it exposes folks do different ideas about the human condition from culture to culture.
The consistent belief across cultures is the golden rule championed by the historical man Jesus, Buddha, and Muhammad too.
And of course there are tribal archetypes ingrained in our mind for war too; and that’s where the not so nice stuff comes in, in so-called sacred text too.
But really the core of all religion is to give folks some guidelines to live the best life possible, mixed in with the frailty of human ignorance as well.
One of the greatest things about the Internet, is it allows us to understand the beliefs and cognitive processes of folks around the world, much better than what we hear of second hand on the news.
The truth is we have much more in common, than in differences, as after all, we all share basically the same genetic material; it is mostly differences in the languages of culture and yes, religion, too that bring about the differences that cause conflicts.
But just complaining about it in a condescending way as Dawkins does here, is more or less Mental Masturbation, producing no effective change at all.
Potential change will come from dissension and positive constructive understanding of the similarities that most always revolve around the Golden rule in most religions.
Love others as you love yourself.
But for folks that don’t like themselves, it’s almost impossible to get to step two.
This is why the new wave of selfies is so important to potential greater world peace.
Believe it or not; it’s just human nature; people who are happy with self are generally happy with other folks, and at least can tolerate and accept the differences that do result from culture and religion, among other folks. I see that everywhere I go, online and off. And of course it’s a common refrain heard in the world of philosophy too as well as the science of psychology too.
There is a narcissism scale with the high end including lack of empathy and intentionally harming other folks.
And then there is a low end of timid soul; which often results in a person who is not successful in life.
The middle balance or way, to paraphrase Buddha; moderation to paraphrase old texts of new version bible is the common well-traveled and successful way that works.
That’s what religion is all about, finding out what works in life.
It’s not always correct, but there’s still plenty of time to make it better.
My religion is dance, song, and love.
The real man Jesus is not substantially different than John Lennon in true effect; neither believed in the necessity of marriage and both believed that heaven is now, not some fairy tale after life, invented later, as a way to control the masses in a poverty of life now, instead of telling them that now is all there is.
Well, now we have the information age; and for folks who truly have love and altruism for the rest of the human species; each person can make a real contribution to make a change that can and will eventually change the world.
After all, even a butterfly can make a difference; it’s all connected in the interdependent relationship of all things. Making it work is often love aka as the four-letter word GOD.
And yes, Dawkins is recently quoted as suggested the abortion of Down’s babies is a morally correct thing to do, per their potential contribution to society.
This reminds me of John Nash and his game theory; later he admitted that it was incorrect, as he did not have the emotional intelligence to understand the love factor in human relationships.
Obviously, Dawkins doesn’t realize the power of love in what happy well loved Down’s children can bring to the rest of their family and folks they interact with in society too.
And obviously, Dawkins does not realize the real power of fearless love, that yes does change the world that most religions do include and get correct, but no, sadly, not all.
But a person, reasonably, considering the true power of fearless unconditional sacred love, cannot throw that baby of love aka GOD out with the dirty so called sacred water, and expect to get a good result in society.
Otherwise you have folks suggesting that children who love others and aren’t intellectually smart, don’t deserve to live.
That’s not the world I want to live in. No, I do not want to live in the world of Mr. Dawkins. Sadly, many folks do, including folks who attend religious services on a regular basis.
It’s love that counts; yes the four letter word; not the three letter one called GOD that’s been twisted in some circles to mean the other four letter word HATE, in harming others.
Yes, harming others with selfish intent is the way of the symbol for the real devil of human archetype; GOD IS ALL; Love is a way for a successful human species.
It’s in our genes; a gene called the empathy gene that the free loving, hippy like Bonobo of the early 60’s to use that phrase as metaphor, shares with us.
The chimpanzee does not have it; the chimpanzee pillages and rapes.
It appears that some folks genetic inclination for empathy is either mutated out or environmentally shut down through the potential negative impact of epigenetics and neuroplasticity during the course of just one life time; abused by parents or bullies, etc. as potential causal factors. But whatever the actual biological mechanism, it’s fully documented that it happens all the time among members of the human species.
Love will help; but hate will just make it worse.
That’s just common sense, in my estimation.
My Catholic church calls GOD Love, and only demands people love themselves and love others the same as well as the whole thing called GOD, from the pulpit, not the structured stuff of past.
But I’ve a got a smart priest, and old tennis buddy of mine from school, at the top of his class then, who still does his homework for the GOD of nature and Love now; the same one that Jesus talked about before the early Roman Catholic church and Constantine and friends turned love into hate, per the uncovered texts translated into English shortly before 1960.
Love is truth; Love is God; there is no doubt about that, at least, in my opinion.
But no, given culture and some religions it’s not guaranteed at all.
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KATiE MiA FredericK!iI
Interestingly, Nuclear wars could be a self-fulfilling prophecy of that ‘thought’, at the levels of decision making terrorist folks, in some small fashion.
But, actually death in general means the end of the world, and we in the USA have an amazing track record of avoiding that.
Additionally, specifically, overall, death from wars are at their lowest levels ever according to research, and yes, we have nuclear war technology to thank for that,
at least in part.
So realistically, war being the way most lives end per historical record, other than accidents and diseases, it’s less likely that your life will end, in this way; but still, driving a vehicle is the most dangerous thing any of us do, on average. If you are really scared about the end of the world, you might consider walking instead of driving if you can, but it’s not a realistic option for most folks in society these days.
Seriously, there is more to worry about in driving a vehicle than what religious conspiracy theorists propose in history or today. It sells seats in pews, and that’s about it, other than causing worry, or a common topic of fear for folks to discuss who are overall dissatisfied with their life, as is.
Yes indeed and in deed, misery loves company; that part never changes as it is human nature for those who do not understand their nature, and practice it as such, with understanding.
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KATiE MiA FredericK!iI
The chances of any written text coming close to what the actual man Yeshua said in his life, is not likely. In oral tradition around a table the story can change in less than thirty minutes. But, at least the text is based on oral tradition as early as any other reported version and much more trustworthy to me, than an early religious council of power brokers, not unlike a corporate boardroom, which does reflect the inner workings of the Catholic Church for centuries. There is a great deal of improvement now, but still a long way to go, before human nature is reflected in the Catholic Church official teachings.
What I see in the gospel of Thomas is a great deal of metaphorical truth, regardless of who originated the text. The saying of as above so below, certainly rings true in science now, as we see the patterns of nature in the golden mean spiral of 1.618 from galaxies down to the Quantum physics level.
But of course those patterned elements were in nature then too, for those who had the time on their hands to observe and note the similarities.
Additionally the focus in the Gospel of Thomas is that of living now, per greater human potential.
Modern Christianity is about a fairy tale, with reality as not the real story; yes, a good way to gain control over the masses promising heaven after death, and promoting poverty in life, but no way to live life in the heaven of now, as reflected in the Gospel of Thomas.
Also, the similarities of these metaphorical teachings are very much like the traditional way of the Yogi, in looking totally within the human being to exert will and control and mastery over one’s bodily functions down to control of body temperature, emotions, and basically bliss by controlling neurochemicals and neurohormones through the nuances of will. Sorry, but the English language does not have effective words for describing these abilities, that yes I have gained myself in this life now, and documented along the way. Describing how to do it, is a much harder task that I continue to attempt to do, but am a long way from being successful in relating this to folks who do not have these abilities, as before I had no ability to regulate my emotions, my body temperature, my neurochemicals and neurohormones, or strength of fearless will, or even physical tension.
I think the reason for that is obvious. I spent a life in academic pursuits stuck in my head, instead of pursuing human potential from within.
I escaped culture, and found my human potential, a much greater reward than any possible materialistic reward as it all starts and ends with what we will and believe in life, and what we value in life.
We are in control, we can be in control, but many folks are not in control with will in their lives; culture runs it instead of human will.
The matrix analogy is similar to the Yogi way and Gospel of Thomas too. These metaphors ring similarly true in many world-wide philosophies not tainted by folks who want to gain control over others by making them weak through fear, repression, and oppression of their human nature.
And finally my favorite verse is verse 37 found in the older limited version and the longer version translated in English in 1959.
Quote:
37) His disciples said, “When will You become revealed to us and
when shall we see You?”
Jesus said, “When you disrobe without being ashamed and take
up your garments and place them under your feet like little
children and tread on them, then [will you see] the Son of the
Living One, and you will not be afraid”
Believe in yourself, and find your human potential that is above so below, inside and outside of what is reality now.
This is not much different from the philosophy of Aleister Crowley, John Lennon, or Thomas Jefferson; or the way of Luciferianism other than the mythical belief of a fallen angel.
The world would be a different place if Thomas 37 took the place of John 3:16, but obviously that would have totally contradicted the needs of power of the Roman Empire and what was the early Catholic Church then.
But with the worldwide selfie craze and smart phones; that reality is coming true; Thomas 37 or no Thomas 37.
The truth is hard to hide, when freedom of expression rings true.
I’ll live with truth, and let the others believe in lies if they want to, but I’ll do my best to tactfully show them some light, in the way of knowledge that makes sense with evolved human nature.
The science of human being is most definitely my all-encompassing special interest at this time, and my evidence of human potential is mounting day by day.
Simply I do this, and truly I do it, as I do not let anyone hold me back, and I have that ability per the freedoms that the United States offers for those individuals willing to exercise those freedoms.
Yes, I am patriotic too, as an advocate for the GOD of nature and country too.
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KATiE MiA FredericK!iI
No, this is no act. But, it’s really not surprising either as not all people have a mind for science. Part of that is genetic as some people with non-verbal learning disorder, who can really talk great, and write fairly good, cannot visualize almost anything in their mind. Often there is a lesion in the right hemisphere of the brain that will not be caught unless there is a reason for an MRI.
My sister falls in this category with the lesion in the right hemisphere as well as a diagnosis of Asperger’s in mid-life. She doesn’t believe the world is flat, but overall she is lost in the science, technology and mathematics that come so easily to me, as a straight “A” student in those subjects. Even though she has a master’s degree in Business Administration, she had trouble passing regular mathematics classes.
I had trouble speaking, and yes regardless of my almost perfect grades in school, that was a huge obstacle in the early 80’s to attain a job, and part of the reason I started out in a Bowling Center working for the military, with three college degrees.
Non-verbal learning disability seen in as many as over 50% of Asperger’s cases, per meeting symptoms, in studies of the past, is a huge disability for mathematics, technology and science. People make fun of them, but yes, they do have a disability.
Whether or not this lady has that disability I do not know, but I would not be surprised at all considering the rest of her behavior on the show; she always seems very verbal but a little lost too. That makes her an endearing character, and yes funny too, but she’s obviously not the go to person for logic.
Chances are many of these folks with non-verbal learning disorder, flock to fundamentalist churches, as they are very literal thinking folks as they have little ability to visual symbols in their mind. They often navigate the world through language moreover than visual images.
It’s bizarre to me, but yes for me, there was a time that I could not talk at all, the opposite of this condition, and interestingly also often diagnosed as autism; yes, both conditions as issues of reciprocal communication and as you might imagine, that lady in the video would have a real hard time in the real world, in the wild if you will, getting along with lots of folks as she refuses to consider anything out of her world view influenced by whatever literal interpretation of it she might have, regardless of religious influence.
But, again, on the other hand, she’s quite a talker, and that’s the requirement for that show, for sure; people who do exist in the country like her can relate, and that per commercialism raises the ratings, as literal thinking folks often fall prey to overall commercialism and conspiracy theories as well, kind of like what fundamentalist leaning churches sell to their audiences. Gullible, naive, etc. are all metaphors that may describe them. Never the less they are just human and deserve respect and accommodation for their potential disabilities.
Yes, there are likely many broader autism phenotype autistic like folks, that are not diagnosed, flourishing in these literally thinking churches; kind of a haven for the non-science and mathematics mind, but accepted socially in their long dresses and buttoned up shirts as a real stereotype for the nerd like behavior that is often attributed to folks with Asperger’s syndrome, who don’t get the visual non-verbal cues in life.
Yes, that’s a difficulty on this website too, there are folks with polar opposite minds in ways of thinking that have the same general diagnosis. You’ve met one person with Autism you’ve met one person with Autism, is definitely grounded in science, for folks who can understand that. But the literal minded folks will sometimes tell you that there is an Autistic culture, based on similar behaviors and such as that type of literal based thinking, not able to fully understand the visual mind of symbolism very much at all.
And all this conversation I just did, often ends up as gibberish to them. There are two worlds here and more, just on this ‘Wrong Planet’ that are very difficult to intersect. It doesn’t always make for happy folks, obviously, but science is f**ning, yes funning great to understand it and perhaps gain a little cognitive empathy; yes, better understanding of the differences in human cognition; more tolerance and acceptance of differences aka as unconditional, even sacred love.
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KATiE MiA FredericK!iI
I think this is likely more easily done for visual thinkers than verbal thinkers. And potentially impossible for folks who have non-verbal learning disorders as they often have great difficulty seeing past the details to the ‘big picture’, in visual thinking, in what seems as obvious reason to me.
I can easily do this with music and movement in TAI CHI and other related martial arts flowing movements with no instruction or guidelines, but sitting still as a person who was born hyperactive, it is impossible for me as I get bored and have to at least move in balanced movement to escape verbal language in my mind.
Unfortunately for many folks like me, with ADHD symptoms, the world is becoming one of more non-movement; robotic like in mechanical cognition living in a computer screen rather than the real world of three-dimensional movement, that can be one of moving in almost 360 degrees with TAI CHI and other martial arts.
I was an extremely uncoordinated person up until the time I started becoming proficient in martial arts. Now I have no problem with movement at all, and am always relaxed as long as I can move just a little bit, like TAI CHI, almost not perceptible to other folks around me.
It makes perfect sense. The cerebellum responsible for movement is also responsible for the adrenaline response and sensory integration.
The quiet hands objection in the so-called ‘militant’ autistic community against the rest of culture really does have roots in neuroscience.
Unfortunately most therapists, psychologists, and psychiatrists are too busy to stay abreast of current research, and haven’t caught up yet to the scientific reason why stimming can be so vital for people on the autism spectrum with ADHD symptoms, comprising over 50 percent of folks on the spectrum, according to research on the prevalent co-morbid condition of ADHD.
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KATiE MiA FredericK!iI
Yes, in the Renaissance time of great artistic and science achievement, it was often said that sculpture of the human form, in all its glory retains and relates more information than words will ever deliver.
And now of course science finally catches up, with the understanding that 60 to 93 percent of all of human social communication is non-verbal instead of verbal. So much of a disability when folks lack this ability, that there is a disorder named autism spectrum disorder where one of the requirements to meet this challenge is adversity in either delivering or receiving non-verbal communication.
For people with these non-verbal disabilities in communication, the sculptures likely mean very little; whereas to the visually thinking person, they could mean more than a thousand nuanced emotions and feelings, as well as visual and patterned ways of symbolically interpreting the world around them.
Brings a whole new interpretation to the chosen ones of mother nature. It’s not fair. It is what it is.
And increasingly we as a nation, in western ways and eastern ways now too, of doing things, live in a text world far removed from all of reality, only exacerbating the issues that already exist, where nature aka GOD is not fair. The great thing is through. through the process of epigenetics and neuroplasticity, change is indeed and in deed possible, but not when one does the same things over and over, per Einstein’s described philosophy of insanity.
Adapt to adversity and change, or stay still and stale, pretty much sums it up to me. Still and stale is often an anxious and depressing way to be and go, anywhere in life, in my best estimation, which reminds me after writing close to 6 thousand words on this site in the last 24 hours, time to move on to something different for a while; like martial arts, dance, and song, and other so called ancient ways of truly finding balance, peace, bliss, and happiness like connecting to flesh and blood folks in real life too.. 🙂 If I can just get over this upper respiratory virus that slowed me down enough to bring me here, in the last 24 hours, I’ll be on my way, to full freedom, peace, bliss, and overall thriving happiness moreover now, again. 🙂 Moving ‘baby’; once again; adapting and striving to go on stronger than ever before. It’s a state of mind put into action now; not an expectation or limitation, so prevalent as our overall cultural way today.
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KATiE MiA FredericK!iI
with Egyptian Goddess raising feathered Phoenix wings and storm break
SkEyE!
THere is a Perfect Storm..of Sacred Unconditional Love for all others..with no illusory fears..and a balance of masculine/feminine..logic/emotion..aka YIN and YANG that is a most powerful force in a Uni
verse..TRUE…
Some folks call IT Kundalini Rising..when the thunder and lightening at core of huwoman being rises like this..some others call IT Christ Consciousness..and the list of metaphors go on and on..since times of ancient past……..
and on………….
And yes.. a Huwoman Big Bang is another one…
That yes! i ‘see’ rising in you..and is always my wish and hope for you..
as well as 4all others..2!
And when this powerful force!
RISES for enough people in a world 4NOW..
In what i like to call Evolution
Or Revolution Orange!
Also.. borrowed from E,W & F
World WILL BE ONE..
FiN
Ally
a
gain..!
never again
a
last!
And have a nice day friend..
All of US..YES WE! hErE!
ARE HERD! OF HEARD!
to help each otHer OUT!
along! this path! and destination! for TRUTH1!
YES TOgetHEr as ONE!
WE
ARE!
i meet three dear friends on the Internet..
who help to bring be much closer to my
body..mind..heart..soul..spirit..and beyond
wITh Allah…
One asks for Logic…
One asks for Love…
and
One asks for Answers..Truth and Pain…
Logic..Love..Answers..Truth AND Pain
are all the same…
Allah’s way…
And in a way..
i am Allah’s Genie….
And those are the most important wishes
to be Fulfilled..
of ALL of Allah’s way…
LIGHT AND DARK
Allah gives to me…..
And NO..!
IT’s not an easy responsibility…
in fact..!
in the world of standard
culture IT is known as
IMPOSSIBLE!
YES! ALLAH IT!
but Allah
makes Impossible
REAL
IT!
YES
IT!
IS!
REAL!
NOW! YOU ASK FOR ALLAH!
SO I TURN IT UP BABY!
LOVE YOU TOO
AND LOL LALA!
AS ALLAH’S
FUNNY2!
NO!
I’M NOT KIDDING
ALLAH’S
THE BIGGEST!
CLOWN TOO!
WHO! IS! IT! ONE2!
that Allah gives us..
And only humans can take that away
through devices of language..
culture..
and yes!
religion too..
The languages..
religions..
and cultures of human beings are diverse
but the thing is..
Humans as created by Allah
and their natural environments
are diverse too…
Cookie cutter languages..
cultures..
and religions
don’t work for the diversity
that Allah blesses human BEING as nature true..
For example..
scientific studies show
that only around 30 percent of human beings
are only monogamous leaning..
the rest is a spectrum
as well as studies on homosexuality
that
indicate that there is a spectrum there
with some homosexual leanings among 96% of ANY
general population..
as a diverse spectrum
of sexual orientation
and gender orientation too..
when the truth comes out..
and the penalty is not
social/cultural/religious rejection..
OR even prison..
as is the case
when the doors of truth are not closed..
and hidden as such…
i am in the 30% of only monogamous human beings..
and in the 4% of totally heterosexual human beings..
it would be easy for me to get on my high horse
and tell everyone they should be a strong..
yes super strong..
martial artist expert of a man..
and call everyone else a sissy
for not moving around 10 miles a day
and lifting
720LBS..with my legs..
and other extreme accomplishments
of human potential..
and no i did not always exercise
this human potential
so i could easily say
everyone else needs
to pull up their bootstraps
like i did to make the change…
But no..
i don’t..
as i know what it feels like to be the weakest..
poorest..
most numb in body..
mind..
heart..
soul and spirit..
losing almost all connection
with Allah too…
Physical illness took all my strength and human being away…
But no..
i never got mad at Allah..
as i know Allah is on this journey with me..
and there is no escaping Allah..
and intuitively i know this existence
goes on forevermorenow..
in the Grace of Allah
that is well beyond my pay grade
as a silly little human being
to understand..
fully all there is to know about Allah..
When people ATTEMPT
to put chains on Allah ..
even the 5 letters..
that can chain the FULLEST essence
that IS ALLITIS..ALLASONE..MOTHER NATURE TRUE..AKA GOD2..
with the context of restrictive languages..cultures..and yes religions 2..
i only Giggle
as i have met the mighty force of ALLAH
FACE TO FACE..
and no man..
no prophet..
no human being
is a match
to tell Allah who Allah is..
or what Allah is going to do next..
i giggle like a little school girl..
when people call Jesus a GOD..
and for fair and balanced coverage..
i laugh when people call Muhammad
the last prophet..
and i promise you this..
If both of these men ARE here today..
they WILL do more than laugh..
They WILL be very angry
at what has become of their humble origins
and ways of spreading true human freedom
for man and women fairly and same!
Yes..
tHere likely WILL be fire in their eyes..
But i will tell you this too..
Very few people in actual religions
or cultures
that so call support these two prophets..
WILL acknowledge any importance
about them at all..
if they come face to face with them in reality now..
As both men as true prophets of the GOD of nature..
one meeting Allah in the desert
and one meeting Allah in a solitary cave..
both!
WILL advocate!
the GOD given rights of Nature
of both man and woman
for retaining full reproductive freedoms
to continue to spread the diversity of Allah
that makes humans strong..
and that my friend..
is why another 70 or so percent of human beings
are not inherently monogamous leaning
no matter what language..
culture or religion
does to repress or oppress their nature..
Where there is TRUE FULLEST
ALLAH GIVEN RIGHT OF
freedomS!
humans as evolved by Allah become stronger..
and yes this does include full reproductive freedom…
Where there is not this freedom..
the result is two fold..
the species gets overall weaker..
and not as likely to survive as a whole..
and when humans have their basic core
of reproductive freedom
repressed or oppressed
whether it is the woman that does not want children
or the woman who wants to have children by many different men..
or the man or woman who cannot naturally maintain
monogamous ways..
or the man or woman
that is inherently gifted by Allah
as homosexual
to make the species stronger in other ways..
as there is often more time to inspire the tribe..
when one is not changing dirty diapers..as metaphor.. if you will..
The tribe gets stronger not weaker…as a whole..and this is what Allah ‘wants’ !
not a wimpy species..
as a metaphor too…
But not only that..
any human..
yes man or woman..
who lives with repression of their self inflicted prison..
AWAY FROM FULLEST ALLAH GIVEN FREEDOMS!
or oppression by others in any of their GOD given natural human rights..
can AND WILL get depressed..
anxious..
aggressive..
and sadly truly the core cause of all violence too..
taking! away the natural GOD given rights
of freedom of man or woman…
including finding subsistence in food and drink..and shelter too…
A lot of words thERE and yes! in my opinion of what i consider truth…
But the bottom line is..
You are not weird…
Allah calls you to be free…
Some people phrase it the call of the wild..!
And yes! the call of the wild..is the call of Allah true…!
No language..
no culture..
no religion..
and NO BOOk
is necessary to understand the call of Allah…
Allah gifts us with it from birth…
Language..culture..religion..and at times.. books..
Take the core of Allah’s gifts away from us..!
I GOT MY GIFTS BACK FROM ALLAH..
AND NO ONE WHERE i live WILL EVER TAKE THEM AWAY!
AS IT IS MY LEGAL RIGHT IN A COUNTRY THAT IS TRULY FREE!
IF i lived where you lived..
I WILL be in prison..or dead..much worse than not being socially accepted…
That can be the price of exercising! TRUE ALLAH GIVEN NATURE THERE..
AND YES.. i still have to fight for it here every now of every now..
But Allah makes it all worth it..
The reward of Allah is now and then..and forevermore now!
That is the magic of Allah TRUE..!
It is beyond any materialistic reward away from mother nature true..
AKA
Allah..GOD..and so many other silly little human metaphored words for something
so great that no word will ever describe
IT!
i hope none of this upsets you..i know you love your country and i love mine just as much..
but freedom never starts or stays..
without
FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION..!
THE GREATEST GOD GIVEN RIGHT OF ALL!
YES OF ALLaH2!
AND YES! IT DOES INCLUDE REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOMS!
THAT ALLAH FULLY SUPPORTS..AND i am able to fight to keep
wHere i live @least now!
Sorry..! it makes me angry that you are in prison as i have been there too..
And again.. i promise you..it would likely make Jesus aka Yeshua and Muhammad
much more angry than i!
How do i know…
Allah tell me so …
And please don’t try to tell me
it’s all in my head..
as it goes much much further than that!
for someone who has been tHere and done IT!
truly in reality!NOW!
Respectfully, with love to you..
But i’m sorry..!not respectfully to either my culture or your culture
or either of our raised in religions that twist the nature of Allah or Allah’s prophets
to the hate of taking human Allah/GOD given rights away!
No you don’t deserve to be in prison..
And Allah backs you up! and i can only hope at this point..
That you see it with more than eyes!…
Love again..it’s what TRUEST HUMAN freedom’s all about! in the Sacred Allah way1!
Women
lead
the
way
for
FREEDOM
NOW!
IN
THE
US
!
WOMEN
CRUSADED
FOR
WOMEN’S
RIGHTS!
AND
THEN
COME
MINORITY
AND
DISABILITY
RIGHTS!
AND
FINALLY
NOW
WITH
THE
LAST
PARIAH’S..
HOMOSEXUALS
ARE
GAINING
RIGHTS!
TOO!
THIS
DREAM
OF
MUSLIM
WOMEN
IS
NO
LONGER
BEING
SHUT
OUT!
IT
IS
ONLY
TIME
BEFORE
FREEDOM
WILL
ONCE
AGAIN
RING
TRUE!
FOR
MUHAMMAD’S
ORIGINAL
WORDS
NOW2!
AS
THEY
ARE
ALREADY
RINGING
TRUE
FOR
YESHUA
AKA
JESUS’
WORDS
IN
THE
GOOD
OLE
USA!
AND
WHEREVER
THE
CALL
OF
ALLAH
IS
TRULY
HEARD
AND
EXERCISED
AS
SUCH
IN
ALLAH’S
CALL
OF
FREEDOM!
TRUE!
And on a personal note..
as there are two more blog posts
already written and coming shortly this morning too..
i
travel yesterday to see my psychiatrist that helped me on my
journey with all my illnesses where i was suicidal too…
When i am AWAKinging ENlightened into what is described
as Kundalini Rising..or Christ Consciousness
my personality dramatically changes
from INTJ to ENFJ
and
now
ENFP…
From
44 to 45
on
the
Autism Quotient test
to
11..
highly empathizing human
being
instead of
highly
systemizing human being
now..
as
well
as
92
on
what is called the
Aspie
quiz..
way
down
from
almost
max
of
195 out of 200 on that
unofficial
scan
for
what are described
as
Aspie traits..
for what i like to call now..
Robot traits…
as
yes!
for all practical intents and purposes
i
was
a
human
robot
before!
Well..
now
i
have
a
new
label
from
my
psychiatrist that yes i do agree with
HYPOMANIA
RUNNING
STRONG
NOW
FOR
OVER
A
YEAR
AND
although he doesn’t tell
me
i’m
Bipolar II..
since
i
was
severely
depressed for 5 years..
before that..
i probably
fit
that
label
2
!
NO.. i AM NO LONGER SENSUALLY OR SEXUALLY REPRESSED..
NO.. i AM NO LONGER CREATIVELY REPRESSED..
NO.. i AM NO LONGER FEARFUL OF ANY ILLUSORY FEARS..
For me insanity truly is doing the same thing over and over..as the great philosopher Einstein would agree too..and the craziest of people i know are the ones like me how i used to be..that do..do the same things all over again.. where even walking in a straight line..is against gravity and not with the flow of allitis…allasone..mother nature true..my true hero true the ONE i call GOD…..
I find the true hero within..outside..above..so below..a rather simplified description though still of something so small and large that exists at the same time..in dark and light the same at night and day..in Sun and Moon..the list goes on and on and on…
But the list is not nearly enough..nor language nor human i or eye..
But we as humans can attempt to be the scribe..and in solving world problems the first step is understanding that the true ONE..yes..is the dark..too..and strife is often a part of the eye of the dragon or tiger in metaphor for the basic instinct for survival for subsistence…
Nah..the true roots of strife..are in the fact that culture is out of balance not the core of huwoman being..i used to think humans are a virus..but now i know culture can be the virus..if our basic nature as primitive human beings is not balanced…
Ahh..the balance..so simple to maintain if one knows how..
But to know how..is to truly understand the hero of ONE..
Not an easy a subject but an easy subject at the same time…
When i come close to escaping the noise of culture i come back to find the ONE in all tHere is including culture and the darkest of dark….
The journey must be together..of tolerance and acceptance and understanding of why the dark and light are ONE….
The dragon and the unconditional LOVE..must live as ONE SACRED ONE….
Finding the balance is finding the peace and bliss..that can all be..after basic subsistence needs are met..but no..not an easy task where there is over-population and mountainous and or desert land..along with all the geographical limitations….
The land of the free exists as the land is rich and bountiful with and when subsistence means….are met…
That is the wHere ONE works..best..wHere the soil is fertile..and the food is plenty..and shelter exists and is shared..SACRED Love flourishes..WELL….tHere…
When the desert reigns and food is scarce along with shelter..hard to find…
The dragon and Tiger arise to survive at basic reptilian instinct to be a live….
Yes the ONE is a reptile too..tHere is no escaping that..not even in the scribe of science in the reptilian brain…..
How to fairly share can be the issue..when the squirrels understand the nuts are plenty….
Unfortunately with humans storing the nuts has become an
insane obsession……
To rise above that is yes…
to truly be free…..
Not many people wHere i live can grasp that concept..
most sadly..
but we will keep trying to help them…
of course..
the free one’s at
core..
for true hero as IS…..ONE
with a smile for hope…
i hope….
🙂
always in what may be my insanity of hope..
as i keep it same…as i do..do that same……..
sane or insane..
It drives me forward in the most insane thing of all
KATiE MiA FredericK!iI 
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt266458.html
Yes, in my opinion it all comes down to balance. Metaphors for Yin and Yang, Reason and Emotion, the divine masculine and feminine, all fit with this.
And any martial arts; most commonly TAI CHI, can achieve this balance in body and of course in reality mind and body are one; when body balances mind automatically balances in flow of balance, anxiety melts away, and positive energy remains.
Not unlike the planets above; and the waves below.
A balance is the wave to go; for full field of effect, if one considers our human being particles.
To use a physics metaphor too. 🙂
It’s all connected; the more I learn and stay open minded, the more I know this in practice and true affect and effect.
A balance is key in all things; inside, outside, as above so below.
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KATiE MiA FredericK!iI
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