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Well..
what i presented
was fact..
not conjecture..
and the fact is human beings
for the most part are feeling creatures
and feeling creatures feel more than empty words…
There are also folks who see tapestry like Forrest Gump
and people who see details like Richard Dawkins…
Now to be clear these are generalizations..
but that’s what folks who see tapestry do.
And oh by the way..
i see detail as SMALL as anyone here..
per my GPA.. college and work history
that does PROVE that out also…
It’s nice to see BOTH POINTS of view…
The thing is most people have great difficulty
escaping the illusions of linguistic centric
ways of expressing the essence of life
and culture centric ways of tribal living..
and excluding the other point of view..
per the instinctual need for social acceptance…
That’s why in the ‘herd’ you have some folks
who refuse to see the point of view of atheists
and refuse to see the point of view
of fundamentalist Christians who are both..
by the way.. by very nature
of mind per nurture and nature..
literal and detail thinkers who cannot
see metaphors in life clearly.. overall…
And yes.. this is another generalization…
The FACT OF THE MATTER PER SCIENCE
AND THE LANGUAGE OF GOD FOR SOME FOLKS
WHO ARE Atheists is that GOD aka Mother Nature True
is the Interdependent Relationship of all that IS
per a FORCE THAT CONNECTS US ALL.
AND BY GOD..
for anyone who can escape linguistic centric
and cultural centric ways of viewing REALITY..
It is obvious as the mountain on the FACE OF GOD..
THAT IT IS THE SAME DAM THING..
that Buddha.. Jesus.. Muhammad..
and 10 thousand other Philosophers
ARE talking about through their lens of life
Science proves GOD now to BE REAL..
YES SOMETHING TANGIBLE THAT WE CAN VIEW
WITH THE AIDED EYE AND EAR.
AND IT matters NOT IF ONE CALLS GOD NATURE OR DOG..
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WE ARE ALL CONNECTED
AND THIS INTERCONNECTing FORCE
THAT SOME FOLKS CALL GOD OR NATURE
IS THE SAME DAM THING
FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ‘SMART’ ENOUGH
TO ESCAPE PRE-CONCEIVED NOTIONS
ABOUT WHAT LANGUAGE
AND THE CULTURE THAT CONTROLS THEM IS…
And that has little to do with standard IQ per the ability to escape…
This is extremely hard to explain the tapestry part of this
to a detail thinker (atheist)
and is extremely hard to explain the science part of it
to a detail thinker (Fundamentalist Christian)
simply as they think rather than feel the world overall..
and sometimes never FEEL
AND OBSERVE THE TAPESTRY OF GOD IN THEIR LIFE…
WORDS are only empty shells without feeling.
But that’s TAPESTRY TALK.. NOT DETAIL TALK…
And it’s fascinating to me..
and part of why i became
a REAL LIFE PHILOSOPHER AS A HOBBY…
AS WE ARE ARE ALL CONNECTED
IF WE CAN COME TO SEE IT
AND SCIENCE PROVES IT OUT
AND THE SCIENTISTS IN THE FOLLOWING VIDEO
ARE AS EXCITING ABOUT SHARING THE AMAZING TRUTH
ABOUT MOTHER NATURE TRUE
AS ANY FUNDAMENTALIST CHRISTIAN
OUT IN THE STREET SPREADING IGNORANCE
ABOUT THEIR WAY IS THE ONLY WAY…
THE TRUTH HERE IS
THERE IS A WAY OF TRUTH
AND THAT IS MOTHER NATURE TRUE
per the beautiful and true video below…
These SCIENTIST folks IN THE LEAGUE OF EINSTEIN
see both detail and tapestry and Nature is just another name for GOD.
YES.. OBVIOUSLY the same ONE
folks who see tapestry have been talking about
for thousands of years per
TAO.. DAO.. CHI.. KI.. DHARMA.. GREAT SPIRIT.. KUNDALINI…
YES.. THE FORCE GOES ON AND THE LIST GOES ON…….
THAT DESCRIBES GOD
ONE AND SAME…..
But please don’t take my word for it alone…
Listen to the scientists if you will..
and see if you can see It
AND FEEL IT aka GOD..:)
They can see IT.. AND FEEL IT..
and they are EXCITED ABOUT IT..
FOR SURE.. EVIDENCED AS FACT…
THE QUESTION IS CAN
one
ESCAPE
LANGUAGE/Cultural Illusions..
AND TRULY THAT IS an eye of a needle
and a VERY large camel for some folks.. at least…
@word690@
http://myfreelancestripperblog.blogspot.com/2014/11/legend-stripping.html
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Well of course science cannot measure a ‘being’ that is neither observable or measurable TO a Supernatural extent.
HOWEVER, the problem I see is the suggestion that GOD is a noun rather than interconnecting FORCE or VERB of all that is aka Mother Nature True, WHICH science now with its MODERN advancements definitely DOES NOW PROVE.
IT’S JUST A MATTER OF HOW one defines the word GOD as God is NOT GOD’s word.
Truly to me, this is something that a three-year old can understand with perception as I most definitely did perceive IT aka GOD without words at age 3.
My personal opinion evidenced by science in the way different minds function per nurture and nature, is that some folks Just cannot perceive GOD AT ALL.
But a force is not necessarily fair. A FORCE THAT CONNECTS ALL THINGS PER THE Interdependent relationship of all that is aka Mother Nature True aka GOD DOES EXIST WITH CONCLUSIVE PROOF FROM SCIENCE, NOW.
All that’s left is determining additional special features of GOD for science IN THE REAL WORLD, NOT IMAGINATION OF SUPERNATURAL NOUNS.
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Name an animal that overall has become functionally disabled by culture;
An animal were one-third of the juveniles are pre type two diabetic;
An animal so functionally disabled by culture, that it no longer has social roles for its young adults, overall, per 50% of even college age graduating students that cannot find subsistence on their own, and rely on the nest still for survival after 2 decades of life.
An animal so out of touch with physical and emotional intelligence that work together through movement AND FEELINGS, that close to 50 percent of the general population of that animal is on pain killers for animal suffering, as well as other chemical additives like anti-depressants escalating both in children and adults who live a life of animal suffering rather than simple animal homeostasis.
And that’s just the tip of the ice-berg as even an animal like me at age 54 who has increased emotional, physical and existential intelligence by way of instinct and intuition, which has little to nothing to do with standard measures of IQ, that yes, I excel in graduating at the top of my class at number 11 out of a class of 381 in high school, and cruising through college with three degrees.
The thing is, my emotional and physical intelligence was for all practical intents and purposes retarded, which means eventually animal suffering would be the result OF an animal out of touch with mind and body balance in both physical and emotional intelligence.
The thing is I have dance walked over 2600 miles now approaching 15 months, lift 810 LBS in leg press, now, and have a record of 33 weeks of rave dance with numerous gorgeous girls dancing with me in photographic evidence on my blogs, in one of the top 100 dance clubs in America.
I was a dork and a nerd before, words that describe a person who is emotionally and physically retarded well.
But even at age 54, I changed that conclusively where people call me a legend of dance in my metro area.
The thing is again, I was almost a complete shut-in for 5 years, with 19 medically documented disorders, including the worst pain known to mankind, type two trigeminal neuralgia, all as a result of retardation in emotional and physical intelligence, as I couldn’t stand the heat of stress, with a body and emotions out of balance.
I looked within and found what is real intelligence FOR REAL LIFE, NOT AN ILLUSION OF CULTURE, FOUND IT AND I AM NO LONGER
RETARDED IN the most important intelligences that I do share with the Bonobo and the Porpoise much greater than before, although I would be rather brash to suggest that I am smarter than those ‘folks’ as I’ve only truly been practicing this most important of two intelligences per emotional and physical intelligence for a little over a year, also recognized now as a Kung FU expert without a lesson, by real experts that train folks in the military special forces.
Yeah, if I lived 2000 years ago, and could do what I do now, per the other folks in the herd that are all repressed and oppressed with their emotional, physical (yes, including sexual intelligence), I would probably be recognized as someone ‘special’ too.
But what I am is just another human like our so-called primitive prehistoric ancestors per the REAL FALL OF HUMAN BEINGS INTO CULTURAL INDUCED HELL.
AND YES, I can see hell in the eyes of people who experience IT as I’ve been there and done IT.
Now I live in literal human heaven as a relative super-human per Frederick Nietzsche’s ideal of the overman:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Nietzsche
YES, as I have set myself free from the illusions of the functionally disabled in culture and am fearless too, with no illusory fears.
And yes, I have conclusive proof of all my claims here per what can happen when a human un-domesticates the REAL INTELLIGENCE of human being in intuition, instinct, and the most important animal intelligences for survival that are emotional and physical intelligence.
Yes, even at age 54, where some young folks think life’s all over. Well it’s not and fuller than ever for those who find real intelligence in life, for human bliss, something my cat experiences freely hugging the grass and rolling around in the sand.
And yes, my cat was incredibly more intelligent than me, during those five years, in EVERY WAY THAT WAS REAL no matter how high my frigging standard IQ was. There are many illusions in culture, but this is perhaps the greatest, THAT humans are smarter than other animals.
Ha-Ha, that’s bullsh** in REAL LIFE WHEN THE SH** REALLY HITS THE FAN, and a human being finds that they were sucking on the teat of culture and technology all of life, with nothing much REAL IN ANIMAL LIFE THAT OTHER ANIMALS FREELY ENJOY as much smarter than human beings, OVERALL who ARE FUNCTIONALLY DISABLED BY CULTURE.
AND HELL YES, these intelligences are just programmed in our genetics by the REAL GOD OF ALL THAT IS AKA MOTHER NATURE TRUE, YES, AKA GOD TOO.
Accessing them is accessing the power of GOD that potentially all of US share THAT FIND IT WITHIN through instinct and intuition also known as talking to GOD.
Along with the tapestry of life that one finds in synchronicity where one finds their way back to GOD, escaping cultural illusions.
And hell yes, this is the same stuff all great philosophers are talking about including Jesus and Buddha, but they don’t have all these words to describe IT every which way GOD lives IN US FOR SURE, WHEN WE DO FIND GOD IN US FOR SURE THROUGH INSTINCT, INTUITION AND CO-CREATING IN the greatest instinct and intuition of human being in CREATIVITY, AS HUMAN like other animals becomes GOD’s partner in ACTION IN JUST DOING LIFE, INSTEAD OF BEING A RELATIVE SPECTATOR, VIEWING IT FROM THE SIDELINES OF CULTURAL ILLUSION.
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The Kinsey report on human sexuality is similar with the suggestion that there is at least some propensity of same sex attraction in human beings per 96% of the general population if my memory serves me correct on that study. But never the less, the results do lean toward Freud’s idea that all human beings are inherently bi-sexual with culture repressing and oppressing those natural ways of life.
Moreover some fundamentalist religious folks will tell you that homosexuality doesn’t really exist in the animal kingdom, where our closest primate relative the Bonobo with a similar empathy gene and empathy related brain structures they share with no primate but humans TOTALLY BLOWS THIS IDEA OUT OF THE WATER, as Bonobos use homosexual and heterosexual sex to resolve conflicts in a natural way avoiding violence and living very peacefully.
The level of homophobia in the world is easily explained by this as so many men are obsessed with their penises and the penises of other guys, when women don’t give a crap overall what size they are unless they are gross looking per aesthetics.
I consider myself 100% heterosexual, however I cannot preclude the possibility that my Vagina only interest is not associated with a region I grew up in, that considered same sex attraction as an hell fire offense.
But never the less, the Kinsey report does suggest that a small percentage of human beings are Hetero only and perhaps folks like me are the ones with the real problems in life, as it’s truly NOT NORMAL, IRONICALLY, PER THE RESEARCH THAT does EXIST, PER HETERO ONLY LEANING FOLKS.
AND the women in dance clubs now, do not hide their attraction to women anymore as delicate feminine girls do the bootie dance with other girls freely to the horror of some homophobic dudes, that think the world is coming to an end now that they have set their basic human natural propensities free in a culture that yes, overall does accept it in big dance clubs, in metro areas, now. But no still, overall, not for men in non-homosexual clubs, the last hold-out of one of the greatest human illusory fears, it seems, yes, so ironically it seems in the grand scheme of human being and Mother Nature True aka GOD too.
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Us and we never works for the autism spectrum.
The only thing that is consistent is what is written in a book to describe reciprocal social communication challenges described as behavioral deficits only.
I did a somewhat exhausting study on this we and us phenomenon about a year ago and yes it still hold true with DSM5 criteria no matter how general the behavioral difficulties are delineated now in diagnostic text in the US.
The Gillberg Criteria still used in Sweden for Asperger’s Syndrome with Hyperlexic language delay until age 4 does still fit me per all checkpoints of diagnosis but this description is far away from some other forms of Autism, as any human challenge could be, other than the general specified behavioral problems of reciprocal social interaction still described as such in the US.
Over 50 percent of folks previously diagnosed in the US fit the symptoms of Non-Verbal Learning disorder, which can be much much different that the hyperlexic language delayed form of Gillberg Criteria Asperger’s Syndrome more fully modeled after case studies of Hans Asperger’s in the middle of the last Century.
But that’s just the tip of the iceberg in causal related factors, of course.
You’ve met one person with Autism and yes, you’ve only met one person with Autism. There is no we or US OR EVEN them for that matter, truly as 10 to 15 percent of the general population is likely on a broader Autism Phenotype to some degree per that systemizing part of the AQ quiz. 🙂
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Yes, and Temple Grandhin is a textbook example of how diverse a spectrum it is in causal factors as her Autism at least in part can be attributed to structural innate differences in the left hemisphere of her brain per the link below, where her right brain had to compensate for her left Brain functions that were associated with structural developmental problems in the left hemisphere of her brain.
At times with Asperger’s syndrome and symptoms associated with non-verbal learning disorder there may also be associated lesions conversely in the right hemisphere of the brain where the left hemisphere attempts to compensate for lost functionality.
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It is also a well known physiological factor now in science that anyone with chronic social stress can eventually have sensory integration problems from the chronic destructive mechanism of stress hormones circulating in the body.
The cerebellum in part controls both sensory integration and emotional regulation. Physical intelligence is also directly related to both sensory integration and emotional regulation.
This in part explains the healing properties that science is just now beginning to understand per practices like TAI CHI that have been used for thousands of years for balance in both sensory integration and emotional regulation.
Move it or lose it does apply.
The factors associated with Autism are most definitely as myriad as a snowflake per person to person.
And movement therapy is one of the newest therapies to help folks on the spectrum with sensory integration and emotional regulation.
I dance everywhere I go in a TAI CHI like way and it is extremely effective for improving both sensory integration and emotional regulation as I now score nearly twice as good on the EQ test, and can rave dance in loud bars as opposed to before when a cricket sounded like a freight train and just the light from the TV show Dancing With the Stars was like fireworks in my eyes.
Chronic stress did it.
Some folks get it early from a variety of environmental stressors and some folks get it later like me, who lived a relatively easier younger life in a small town as compared to what some folks face in life these days, with highly reactive nervous systems and an intensely stimulating and stressful social environment.
Damage does ensue and it is the kind of damage that an MRI will not pick up at all but hell yes you can FEEL IT, HEAR IT AND SEE IT PER incredible discomfort and pain.
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There is a mythology of an online Autism Community of similar people that truly only exists online.
And truly some of these folks try to speak for others who have this diagnosis per their own similarities that has little to no similarity with other folks on the spectrum.
It’s a political issue not a pedantic one, per the topic here.
Of course people use we all the time just as a reference point, but many of these folks are using it as a capital WE like a frigging law or something.
I personally could care less whether they do it or not, as it is non-sensical to me, when they do not take the relatively short amount of time it takes to see just how diverse the spectrum is with a little research, per the kind that Autism Speaks does across the entire spectrum, not just an online club of folks with similar beefs about society, which are often oppressive, repressive and sadly misguided in my opinion.
But again, for me, do as thou wilt, to each his own, is the way I go in REAL life.
I got involved in this non-sensical argument for several years as a mindless activity to forget about real physical pain.
The pain is over and thank goodness that non-sense is over for me too, but it worked well as a circular argument for folks who refuse to budge out of their own blinders about life. Their illusion of pain, helped me to forget REAL PAIN, SO yeah, weird how things works out for the best even when it’s for the worst….for some others still….overall…
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