“The old appeals to racial, sexual, religious chauvinism to rabid nationalist fervor are beginning not to work. A new consciousness is developing which sees the earth as a single organism, and recognizes that an organism at war with itself is doomed. We are One Planet.”
– Carl Sagan
“A human being is part of the whole called by us universe , a part limited in time and space. We experience ourselves, our thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest. A kind of optical delusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from the prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty…We shall require a substantially new manner of thinking if mankind is to survive.”
– Albert Einstein
THE BYSTANDER
So sad..
and it’s so true
that larger populations of people densely packed..
of course along with people more involved
in solving equations than connecting to people..
can and does result in humans
who are more like robots and machines than flesh and blood love…
When Milton is a much smaller city..
i can vouch for the TRUTH in the 60’s
that this will likely never happen.. but yes.. sadly so.. it can likely occur now…
As a whole.. we are not evolving as humanity.. we are devolving as machines…
i’ll stay in the woods
and connect in every way I can in REAL life..
even if it means dancing everywhere I go.
Hell NO.. I will NOT stay still… i am already a machine..at one point in my life..
and no NOW..I insist on being human and will have it no other way..
no matter how long i have to ‘stand on the desk’
of the ‘Dead Poet’s Society’…
in dance or no clothes at all.. simply as human being.
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http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/thomas.htm
37)
His disciples said to him..
“When will you be visible to us..
and when shall we behold you..”
He said..
“When you strip naked without being ashamed..
and take your garments and put them
under
your
feet
like little children and tread upon them..
then..
you will see the child of the Living..
and you..
will..
not..
be
afraid”
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word
*393*
http://myfreelancestripperblog.blogspot.com/2014/09/yes-i-find-god-in-me-stripping.html
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At the small junior college that I went to back in the late 70’s, my professor of philosophy was definitely one of the ‘continental’ thinking minds of philosophy. In fact, his continuous mantra was that specialization in a technological society is the root of all ignorance. I enjoyed his approach of creativity and open mindedness and this way of teaching definitely opened new doors of conscious awareness for me.
However, I think both methods are required for lifelong continuing interest and growth in both the science and art of philosophy. Rigid logic is rigid is rigid logic, and while necessary can be extremely limiting, as the subconscious mind is always a fertile ground where OLD archetypical and NEW CREATIVE ideas can come, if freely cultivated, without the structural boundaries of the past, or present, as practiced by culture as is.
Socrates notion of I know nothing is not enough, in other words, for me. Socrates was a mystic as much as an analytic thinker, by what record there is of conjecture of his life; however, he did emphasize a necessary part of philosophy to me.
One can understand that the purpose of the education system moreover is to successfully continue civilization as is and improve the comforts of civilization for domesticated humans.
However, domestication of humans as a whole can be a great source of human suffering too, as most often civilization is associated with repression and oppression of our animal nature, most often emotions and sexual nature.
To even have the potential to escape this is to escape culture. And to escape culture is to look within, a constant mantra of deeper thinking human philosophies for thousands of years now.
But to look outside is equally important as well, and to develop a structure to navigate the construction of an ordered way of life. But again, in my opinion, to be successful at doing this in philosophy and life in general, one must cultivate the logical reasoned part of the mind as well as the emotional creative part of the mind in balance.
And yes, that can be extremely hard to do either in work or college, where the looming underlying task is to keep civilization working and comfortable for what is becoming a global tribe now.
The next two videos are interesting as they offer a mix of both.
But in the second video, what may seem like at first to be a very continental approach is actually one of the most rigid analytical approaches possible, relegating the meaning of life down to whether or not a man and wife can refrain from orgasm.
But it brings a whole new meaning to fundamentalist ways of looking at Abrahamic religions, where the sex act is actually the goal of life, in raising consciousness to a higher level. Unfortunately science was not around to understand the sex act better back then, to ‘really’ put it in its place of just a necessary bodily function, to make another life; whereas lust, as now shown by science, is truly the driving force of creativity instead of something ‘evil’.
In my opinion, balance is the bottom line. And a balance of logic and creativity is definitely my way of philosophy. Which yes, does require continental and analytical philosophy working together not against each other. As for me, that oppositional ideology is nothing but mental masturbation. If I cannot get amazing effects and AFFECT out of the philosophy of life for my own life, evidenced as such, it is valueless to me, and nothing more than solving math equations, as a waste of time, in what I personally consider the connections of REAL LIFE.
To be clear, I understand you may not have the time or interest in the videos, but I offer them to the rest of the listening audience, who I personally consider NEVER the less. They are interesting for folks who do love to cultivate both the analytical and creative philosophical experience of human being; but only with an open mind; which simply means one not closed off to either science or art, logic or heart, reason or creativity; the list of metaphors for the dualistic nature of life, do go on. But again, that ‘two’ is part of philosophy, full philosophy not ‘half’ philosophy, ALL in my opinion, of course.
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt267509.html
I personally think it’s almost the opposite. Nature is much more advanced than science at creating a synergy of traits in human evolution as that relates to both genetics and even epigenetics in one lifetime.
What is often seen as disability can actually result in incredible human potential, as a result of the intricacies of ‘my GOD’ millions of years of nature’s way of survival for the fittest to make it to reproduce.
Culture AND science, if anything has made humankind overall much weaker and even less inherently intelligent as our ancestors of distant prehistoric past, who have the REAL FULL intelligence to actually survive and thrive in the wild; a skill that would blow most people’s mind and yes body too, in a relative heart beat of existence out there in the REAL jungle of the wild.
The illusion is that our collective intelligence and complex language makes us smarter, where in reality, it truly makes us weaker overall, and yes dumber too, as what standard IQ measures of what can be the totality of wild human intelligence, is far from what human FULL potential can be.
And no, what I say is not without scientific merit, Yogi’s who have managed to undomesticated themselves epigenetically in one life, DO incredible feats of what can be described as relative super human feats of REAL LIFE abilities.
Go ahead science give it a whirl; make us dumber than we are, even now.
But the good news is, science is finally catching up with the YOGI, so yes perhaps there is hope for the human race to survive after all, and not kill itself off, through weakness and TRUE OVERALL intelligence of disability instead of INTELLIGENCE of strength in both MIND AND BODY as one and same.
It’s not necessarily an issue of what we could be, it can be more of an issue of what we CAN BE, IF PROPERLY CHALLENGED AND MOTIVATED FOR CHALLENGE to simply but EFFECTIVELY adapt for the REAL THING of life.
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If anything for me, as a person who lived most of his life in real life flesh and blood interaction, this whole issue shows just how crippling the condition of Autism can be in terms of cognitive empathy.
Human beings INNATELY care about each other and try to relate to the pain and suffering of others and end it, no matter what that takes.
It’s really as simple as that, no matter who it is, child or adult.
And not to be able to understand that Is truly the saddest part of all of this in my best estimation.
And it’s truly impossible to explain this to some folks, no matter how many or few words are used.
That is part of the human condition. But it’s like trying to cross a river with no bridge and not having the ‘strength’ to swim
across if for many folks it seems, on the autism spectrum, but no, not all, as empathy of any kind is not a problem at all for some folks
on the spectrum. In fact, it can be a strong and unconditional one of STRENGTH instead of weakness.
And the sad thing is, again, my comment here will be absolutely meaningless to some folks, but yes, I for one, personally know WHY.
It’s always the 800LB gorilla in the room, in these type of discussions that most people are afraid to bring up. But I for one, am not; afraid to do it.
The ASAN organization and some other folks have been trying to limit human empathy; both cognitive and affective. IN the REAL world of human being that does not and will never work. It’s amazing to me these discussions even get attention. But they do in some niches on the internet.
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf267488-0-30.html
That’s what I like about my concept of GOD as a Classical panTHEIST AND YOGI LEANING DUDE.
The irrefutable evidence of my concept of GOD SHARED BY millions and millions of people throughout history and prehistory is everywhere I look.
And it is completely reconcilable with all other concepts of GOD as they are only subsets of my concept of GOD.
In other words even an imaginary GOD is part of my CONCEPT OF GOD.
And given that ghosts, and spirits and even other imaginary thingies real or not real in material substance are part of my GOD as like it or not (not you personally) imagination is part of the reality of the Universe, thereby a part of my Concept of GOD too.
In my mind there is no doubt AT ALL that GOD exists. I’d have to be insane to think any other way; seriously.
But oh yes, the GOD I know of nature is a mysterious ONE at times, IN FACT ALL THE TIME, as TRUTH is always stranger than fiction, per Mark Twain, as Hell NO HELL DOESN’T HAVE TO MAKE SENSE, AS metaphor, only, please. 😉
There are imaginary hells and heavens that are as real in what the only thing in life that really TRULY counts, FEELINGS, are. Words or life experience without complex FEELING is empty, callous, and not worth living, in my estimation. One has to have tremendous patience to get through that, as faith, belief, hope, and even WILL ARE ALL HUMAN FEELINGS UTILIZED as such at essence of TRUE fullest human being reality; and yes, ALSO PART of the classical panTHEIST way of believing, too.
It’s a comfortable way of believing to say the LEAST. 🙂 I have no REAL reason to get ‘Butthurt’ over anyone’s opinion as I know GOD does not have to make sense, IN THE SCHOOL DAYS way off thinking. 🙂
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Yes, most definitely there is, as on some so called Autism support sites, there are pre-qualified statements that any disagreement about it, will result in banning.
The sad part of this is that many folks on the spectrum can find no support in real life. I as a permanently disabled person with illness, was not able to go into the real world and make real contact there, so this site was one of my only opportunities to connect to human beings at all. Given that, I was always skating on egg shells not to get anyone too ‘butt hurt’ over my opinions that were often polar opposite to what I saw as really ridiculous, after adapting in the real world for so many decades.
I have a full life now, away from this website, so I only come here now to give straight talk, and I do not pull any punches about what I see as simple truth. In my opinion, so called autism support sites, only give support to folks who agree with the ‘herd’ opinion. And that is not a way of life for me at all. There is no real way I could find connection here, as seriously, different ways of thinking are rarely openly accepted. And for folks with intellectual disabilities, including learning disabilities, they are often ostracized by intellectual bullies over and over and over. That part literally makes me sick, and I cannot stay quiet about it.
And yes, that is to be expected overall for people who have difficulty with theory of mind. It’s really no different than intellectual disability per severity, and in some ways more challenging in REAL LIFE. I take it very seriously but if the problem is never identified, there is little to no chance for improvement.
I got the practice I needed over decades of real adaption in real life, to gain mine. as is. It’s far from perfect, but I get by in REAL LIFE just fine now that I am healed of my physical disabilities. Autism was never a real challenge to me, compared to all the physical illnesses I have endured. I never complained about any of it here. There is no use in complaining about it, in my estimation. Not even the physical illnesses, as people don’t want to hear negativity; in REAL LIFE, THAT’S for sure.
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The truth is there are both. And some folks readily admit to their problems with empathy and will do anything to fix it. And some folks don’t care.
And yes, of course this issue is not specific to the Autism Spectrum. And of course in general it is an issue as modern science shows in the last several decades that empirically measured levels of empathy are down around 30 percent among college age folks.
Empathy is not a static ability nor innate ability alone. There are many environmental activities that increase it and many that do decrease it.
Unfortunately, flesh and blood communication is the greatest enhancer of empathy and Internet communication can be the greatest impediment.
People are cold all over the Internet and treat people like objects instead of basic humanity in what DOES even allow human beings and their primate relatives, Bonobos, to survive IN social cooperation with a similar empathy gene that no other primates shares.
In my opinion, most of the difficulty is environmental when it comes to higher functioning autism. As yes, social cognition and cognitive empathy are synonyms and science now shows that when mechanical cognition activities that are analytical related are done, it represses the pathways of the brain for social cognition also known as cognitive empathy.
The human brain is a remarkable organ of plasticity and in our genetics there is an ‘epigenetic clause’ that allows us either to evolve in humanity or devolve and that is contingent on what one adapts to for either success or failure in the most important game of life; social cooperation and survival.
It is the core innate reason that any time a child dies at the hands of a parent that the rest of the tribe immediately goes into EMERGENCY MODE, to correct the situation using whatever method is necessary, as it is the farthest thing from normal human nature to either attempt or successfully kill one’s own child also known as filicide.
Otherwise, the human race would not have survived as long as it has with the child always considered the prize. Parents are responsible for that, totally responsible for that, but the FACT IS, it has, is and will always be a team of cooperative effort with the village raising the child, or the human species WILL go extinct.
In Japan, levels of human empathy from life in an extreme technological society have gone so low, that young folks as a whole, no longer even desire to procreate, for the most part.
Case in point; at least that is not happening in the US, not quite yet.
Most people don’t even understand what cognitive empathy is, and yes that does include the general population. Without understanding it, it’s hard to improve it.
And in fact, science has only recently gained empirical understanding of it, as well.
This is no easy no subject and there are no easy answers. It takes work, work, work and more work to make humanity work.
Not everyone wants to and not everyone is cut out for the work required for social cooperation success. But one thing for sure is, at core ability, the whole survival of the species is still continent on this success, always has been and always will be, as there is NO escaping Mother Nature; alive at least.
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Thanks for the reasonable response, and it really just boils down to interpretation, which is and can be reasonably different, per context, and a different set of eyes.
And on the quoted point above, of course I am not suggesting that imagination in shape or form is a real place per material substance. However, it is an emotional state and a real change maker for human being, per negative or positive consequences, and of course casual potential as a force of energy in the Universe, no matter how small it may be, that is the REAL part.
I’ve never had an hallucination or seen or heard anything unreal, however I have experienced sensations such as the slowing or speeding up of time, that my wife recognized at the same time, validating my experience in a way she could not have possibly otherwise known, unless she shared it with a type of emotional contagion that is well beyond the state of science today.
I do not believe in the Supernatural at all. It’s only common sense that science is extremely young, in understanding all of nature as is, and no, science will likely never understand even a relative small part of it, as our perceptions of reality are so narrow, and dominated by emotional archetypes per any possible real objective understanding of reality. But perhaps, it is the subjective that is real, and not the objective.
Even Carl Sagan, entertains this ideology under the influence of mind altering drugs. Some folks don’t need those drugs; they come naturally equipped as is. Those are the real philosophers, like Socrates, who make the REAL leaps in understanding human being, as yes they are simply and or complexily equipped where some folks are not.
But of course, still as always it takes both logic and creativity to truly understand the most of reality possible. And that is what philosophy is truly about, in only my opinion, of course.
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