The TRUE POWER OF belief .. faith and HOPE

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http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5895365.html#5895365

Yeah..plus one on the statement above..(from the link above)

What many people ‘fail’ to realize is just how important the process of believing in a positive power of anything is in achieving…

actual positive results of affect and YES EFFECT in life…

While some people pooh pooh..the power of the PLACEBO EFFECT…research does show just how powerful..
the Power of belief..regardless of whether or not the object of belief is FULLY true or not…

Well..the NOCEBO EFFECT..is just as EFFECTIVE..AND AFFECTIVE..per the overall human condition..in even
producing objectively medically documented diagnosed disorders…

As i’m sure the ‘good’ doctor above..is fully aware of this in his practice… in real life.

But for the ‘laymans’ in the audience i will once again..provide a little visual documentary for those who have time or interest in viewing it..
here once again…

Ya see.. there’s the documented scientific evidence…a person can make themselves medically and physical ill..by believing they are gonna be ill..through the NOCEBO EFFECT/AFFECT fully just with the power of BELIEF..AND FAITH IF YA WANNA CALL IT THAT TOO..in whatever the object OF ILL THEY BELIEVE IS GONNA MAKE ‘EM SICK..

NO MATTER IF IT IS FULLY ‘TRUE’ OR NOT..

AND YES THERE IS DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE..THAT THE BELIEF IN THE PLACEBO EFFECT/AFFECT no matter if the object of belief in GETTING WELL..IS FULLY ‘TRUE’ OR NOT…

SO THE BELIEF PER PLACEBO/NOCEBO..WHETHER HEALED OR SICK..IS ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL GIFTS OR DESTRUCTIVE FORCES FOR THE HUMAN MIND..

AND OH MY GOD! IF FOLKS ACTUALLY BELIEVING THAT JESUS DIED ON A CROSS ROSE UP FROM THE DEAD AND ASCENDED INTO HEAVEN AND IS SEATED AT THE RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER AND WILL COME AGAIN IN GLORY TO JUDGE THE LIVING AND THE DEAD..

MAKES ‘EM FEEL BETTER..AND HEALTHIER PER THE PLACEBO AFFECT/EFFECT…

THEN .. F** ‘A’  .. LET ‘EM GO FOR IT..!

IN THIS CASE A POTENTIAL LIE..
BECOMES THE TRUTH OF HEALING POWER..

THE TRUTH IS NOT ALWAYS THE TRUTH..
FOR THE BETTER ‘GOOD’ FOR HUMANITY..

OR FOR THAT MANNER THE ‘WORSER’ ‘BAD’ FOR HUMANITY..

‘CAUSE FOR ONE SIMPLE REASON..
WHILE I DO NOT NEED THE PROMISE OF HEAVEN OR THE DIVINITY OF A MAN..TO FEEL GOOD..AND TO BE HEALTHY..

AND THE NATURAL HUMAN POTENTIAL OF THAT MAN AND OTHERS LIKE HIM..TO GAIN BLISS IN THE NOW IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR
ME TO HAVE BLISS..PER THE REAL LIFE PRACTICE OF WHAT THEY PRACTICED IN REAL LIFE..

IT ain’t the same for SOME other folks..THAT ACTUALLY need to believe in these supernatural things to be happy and healthy..

AKA the friggin PLACEBO EFFECT AND AFFECT .. IN SOME CASES…

A REAL SCIENTIFICALLY DOCUMENTED HUMAN HEALING/PSYCHOLOGICAL AND EXISTENTIAL REAL LIFE IN EFFECT AND AFFECT MEDICINE..IN THE CASE OF RELIGION ..THAT AGAIN! IS REAL..WITH REAL SCIENTIFICALLY MEASURED BENEFITS..FOR HUMAN HEALTH AND WELL BEING…

IT DON’T GET ANY BETTER THAN THAT FOR SOME FOLKS..
THAN BELIEVING IN A MYTH WHETHER IT IS THE RISEN JESUS CHRIST ASCENDED INTO HEAVEN…FOR A DREAM OF BLISS IN THE FUTURE..THAT MAKES A PERSON FEEL BETTER..TO GET HEALTHIER IN THE PRESENT NOW…

OR THE FRIGGIN LORD OF THE RINGS..
AS SO ELOQUENTLY SUNG
BY THE great group
STYX.

AS LONG AS A PERSON IS HEALTHY AND HAPPY IN THE NOW IN THIS LIFE..
IT DON’T FRIGGIN MATTER WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN
AS LONG
AS THAT
IS
REALITY..

THAT IS THE TRUTH ..THE WHOLE TRUTH..AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH..
ABOUT MYTH..
AS FAR AS I KNOWnow!

SOMETIMES A ‘PARTIAL’ OR ‘FULL’ LIE IS THE WAY TO BLISS TOO..
SO IRONICALLY IN THAT CASE..A LIE IN A WAY BECOMES THE ‘TRUTH’ idealistically
speaking..if ya will…

And by the way modern science suggests that autistic folks do not benefit as much..from
the placebo effect..per control groups in the general population..
and ergo likely not the deleterious affect/effect of the placebo effect as much..either..
if one wants to use common sense..for this newer studied phenomenon….

And it is already known that this applies to about 60 TO 70 percent of the general population…

So in this case perhaps..this is how some folks end up on the road to atheism..or agnosticism..
outside the doors of a structured church…

Religion just don’t do ‘em any good..potentially…

in objective reality..while it does some other folks a whole lot of good..
per the PLACEBO EFFECT/AFFECT AND WHAT MODERN MEDICAL SCIENCE UNDERSTANDS..
IS THE TRUTH ABOUT MYTH…!
for some human folks.

And yes there is a lot of good stuff in religion ..per general ethics..
and real life PRACTICES..THAT ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH SIMPLE
HEALTH AND WELL BEING PRACTICES..AS SIMPLE AS THE PRACTICE
OF MODERATION..THAT are practiced..that with any simple common sense..
should be understood as a way to a more healthy way of life…

And social connection is already understood as the number #1 source of happiness..
for most social human animals..so oh my GOD it only stands to reason..
that if a person gains these connections through an organized church through the course of
life..through the similar real life established friends..it’s all good man…
and yah..what is more important than happiness and bliss in life..
if a person is REALLY HONEST WITH THEM SELF.

MAYBE SOME FOLKS ARE TRUE MARTYRS BUT..NAH..MOST FOLKS WANNA BE HAPPY..
AND THAT’S
THE
TRUTH THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH..as far as i know
about that…

So here’s that Video of Styx and the Lord of the Rings to end this monologue of mine now..
as yah ..that is what makes some of us Autistic folks happy to be able to FULLY EXPRESS OUR
IDEAS..IN A LONG MONOLOGUE..NOT like THE TWITTER FOLKS..THAT WANNA SAY EVERYTHING.
IN JUST 140 CHARACTERS..
OR WHATEVER…

AND yes if i did not use some form of that in my written communication..to accommodate that present
intellectual limitation..for some folks that have become slave to the twitter word..and world..

This really would be a huge wall of text..

But instead..it is somewhat..bit size chunks..one at a time..
for the Twitter folks…

i carefully calculate everything i do ..and in doing so as such..
i make it all sacred even..every movement i make dance walking like
a TAI CHI..or Zen Master…and the next thing..i do not know..
AS IT becomes flow..and i do not even have to think about
my way to bliss….

But i am odd..and i do not care what anyone else thinks..
i am a maverick..
not just a cow or sheep in the herd..or bird in the flock..

yah..Jonathan Livingston Seagull and all of that..

CHALLENGE YASELF..
BE DIFFERENT..IS MY PHILOSOPHY ABOUT
THAT2….
IN THE WAY AND STAY TO BLISS..IN NOW..
IN JUST MY LIFE..NOW!

A MONOLOGUE OF BLISS….

AND IF YA DO NOT LIKE MY AUTISTIC METHOD OF COMMUNICATION..

please just ignore me..i too..am here for support..
just to friggin be my OWN autistic self!
and that includes not worrying about what other
folks think..about my differences..and all of THAT!
2:)

WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT.
SO WHAT.. I’M JUST MORE DIFFERENT..THAN MOST PEOPLE
WHO ARE DIFFERENT..JUST MY REALITY..
THAT IS ALL..

PLEASE just let me be..
smiles and please
have a great day..if ya will..
i would not want to tell ya..
what to do….directly

if ya get my drift..2

Oh..and by the way..in this

wonderful video metaphor..

Jack Nicholson..

plays a role

almost like GOD

if ya can get it..th@IS…

ITISWH@ITIS

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5 Responses to The TRUE POWER OF belief .. faith and HOPE

  1. Interesting consideration of myth as placebo (that’s one thing I got anyway). I believe that myth plays an important role in our cultural survival as we try to understand what we can’t explain. And I appreciate your acceptance and expression of your autistic self.

    • Thanks for stopping by Victoria..

      This is basically a real time discussion between me and some other folks on the Autism Spectrum..all the higher functioning type..where there is sometimes great difficulty understanding..the underlying real life advantages that some folks find from religion..

      As a participating..individual..it is more than obvious to me that the main draw is the
      connection of love that one can find there..IF they fit in..or in some rare instances..everyone is accepted..

      But of course as is often the case folks on the Autism Spectrum..have great difficulty fitting..in and it is easy enough..to see others against..one …
      when it is really often a matter of miscommunication..
      and misunderstanding..moreover for the general differences among all human beings…
      i think..
      and of course the autism spectrum..is a bit more challenging per the world of social interaction..than most other disorders..

      But anyway..i try to do my best..when they suggest that folks are delusional or what not for going to church..that there are real objective benefits that currently most of the population still do benefit from..whether or not an individual may or may not..
      gain a benefit..depending on their personal circumstances or views..
      about religion..

      But i am happy to say that my church will defend the rights of folks who are different..to be accepted and that makes me very happy..
      as a person who is most definitely

      very different..in so many ways..:)

      I can wear shorts tHere in the dead of winter..as i do not get cold..

      And people will smile..but they do not
      smirk.;)
      at least for the overwhelming majority..tHere..:)

  2. From the Wrong Planet..in regard to personal beliefs…

    http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5899422.html#5899422

    Human beings are social animals not unlike dogs..

    Human social animals..are here to support and connect with each other.

    or
    ‘they’ are here

    to die..and that is all….

    The world in someways is ignoring this..the world of human beings that is..

    And so

    Suffering …

    Is apparent..wHere no REAL effective human support and connections

    OCCUR..IN THE true human animal misery..

    of disconnection..

    Dogs know only unconditional LOVE

    therefore..

    DOG
    IS
    GOD
    iS
    DOG


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  3. http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5901299.html#5901299

    yournamehere wrote:

    that is alot of stuff there. belief is very powerful. faith and hope you need to be careful about. it can have false ruling factors that can steer you in the wrong direction. false belief, and blind faith for instance. you can hope your bread is going to rise. believe, and have faith that it will. it will not do a dang thing if you do not add any yeast. you cannot get a vitamin afficiency by having a lack there of either. no matter how much you believe, and prey. god will not magically put them in there. however, your thoughts are enlightening. it somehow brightened some things up a bit.

    aghogday wrote:

    No doubt FOR ME there are limits..

    i lived in the complete other place with 19 medically documented disorders..as almost a complete shut-in for over 60 months..

    One of the disorders ..atypical type two trigeminal neuralgia.. is the medically documented worsT pain known to mankind..
    that made effective use of my sight and hearing..almost impossible for those 60 months..

    NO amount of belief or faith would make that pain go away..during that 60 months..
    And no.. i had no hope either..

    But the only THING i had
    was never giving..up..

    for a long time..pushing each letter at out of this keyboard..

    was like pushing nails in my eyes ..and yes i am completely serious about that..

    Suicide was mostly what i wanted but..

    i was loved too much by my immediate family to go that route…

    EVEN THOUGH I COULD NOT FEEL IT..hardly AT ALL…
    pain was mostly life..it was mostly all tHere was…

    But..still..Love FROM others was the only thing that really saved me..

    My moral code..honor and integrity..amazingly STOOD INtact..for the most part2…

    And now in LARGE PART FOR that love..

    i truly live in bliss..

    probably more than anything..

    THE REASON IS i understand

    gratitude..and live it..
    more than most folks
    living it in the NOW ALL THE TIME..

    i think..

    for obvious reasons..now that the HORRIFYING pain..
    ‘magically’ disappeared last JuLy..

    Thanks for the thought fuLL response..:)
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  4. http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5906895.html#5906895

    i live in a utopian world that i create for myself..through the available freedoms in this country..

    But and a big but..

    IS i can do that as i am financially independent..and am no slave of another person..to do what they’ll have
    me do to make a living…

    Some folks find jobs that still allow this freedom in utopian living..

    i actually did for almost two decades..a job where even where i had a boss..

    i still had full range of freedoms..to express myself..and just be myself…

    That’s utopia to me..

    Another thing..is i keep my standards low..

    Utopia mostly is a state of mind to me…

    Otherwise..i’m not sure how it could exist anywhere in real life….

    AS the mind (one without personal discipline and control) can be the greatest predator against happiness in anyone’s life….

    It can be an evil beast..

    or best friend..

    the mind that is…

    a dreamer of heaven..

    or a nightmare
    of
    hell..

    i choose heaven..
    but it’s work to get
    and stay tHere
    always
    now..
    and while we can
    share our experiences..
    and ways to arrive in a Utopian bliss..

    everyone
    must
    find
    their
    own
    way..
    in my opinion2….
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