In the Catholic Church I attend..
it is the advent season..
IN honor
of
the birth of Jesus…
While i am preparing to attend
Midnight Mass tonight and celebrate a joyous
singing experience of the unconditional Love..
that is the Memory of Jesus..
i
have a ‘little’ announcement to make…
The Christ Consciousness that for over 2K years..
in esoteric teachings..being forecast for the future of human
existence..IS hErE KNOWNOW
!
WeLl in the ‘big’ world that exists..my opinion on this..
is relatively meaningless…
BUT that is of no concern..as the folks with a real
voice..with all the fame..
are playing in alignment with the true
Christ Consciousness gAmE
as well or
much..much better
than
me….
So here are some more thoughts and current
social artistic cues on that..
Per IS Jesus a ‘Progressive’
Political figure..
in historical..
con
text…
Yes this is so true in my estimation..and per the so called religious right..things really haven’t changed much as they still show hate for people who are different..like people of different religions..and people who are homosexual..and people like Miley Cyrus who choose to show their beautiful and sensual bodies..in freedom of expression…
Yes..Jesus was definitely progressive..and if he came back in the same form..those religious right folks would still likely reject him..and although crucifixion is no longer a viable option..they would likely nail him to every metaphorical cross they could find…
Well in effect.. the so called religious right evangelical wave of hate..is anti-Christ in true effect for those people ‘ignorant’ enough to take a beautiful book of poetry which is the bible..and particularly the New Testament..as a literal work of text…
It is so much more than that…
And yes..although the text has been sullied some by selfish desires of men to control the reproductive freedom of women..and the freedom of expression..by people as well..and fear to control people rather than allowing them to be as free as GOD allows any animal to be..
There are still nuggets of GOlD there that still exist for those who can discern the gold from the ‘tRash’ that does still exist in the bible…
From those more selfish individuals who would want to control the TRUE WILL of their fellow social animals….
Rather than to simply allow them to be free..like a Hawk or Seagull in the sky..or a Tiger in the Jungle..or a Lion on the Savannah…
Well at least in this country a person can now believe in the TRUE CHRIST WAYS OF LOVING BEINGS UNDER TRUE WILL..without harming others..and not literally be burned at the stake or crucified on a cross…
They can truly finally say f** you anti-Christ folks and tell ’em it’s our party and we can’t stop…
BUT WAIT..MILEY CYRUS ALREADY DID THAT..
!
Ya see.. Christ has already returned in many forms of human beings..
Just consider Miley Cyrus one of many thieves coming in the night….
I could provide a list of many others..for those who could discern truth….
The NEW AGE IS ALREADY HERE..
But not everyone is listening….
To the signs that are everywhere..in this world now…
But the folks that are..can hear IT LOUD AND CLEAR AND THEY ARE CELEBRATING THE TRUE LORD WHICH IS UNCONDITIONAL LOVE AND TRUE WILL IN HARMING NO OTHERS..OUT IN THE STREETS EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD..WHERE TRUTH IS HEARD….
Apparently more folks can hear it..and on websites FOR MANY PEOPLE WHO may be somewhat out of tune with EQ.. that is simply LOVELY FRIENDS..
Thanks.. you make my day..and i don’t feel so alone..here in my small attempts to enlighten people…
For those of you who can hear..
that message of unconditional LOVE….
Some of Who were like me before..when i could discern or hear anything of the unconditional LOvE..that is the TRUE CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS….
Available to anyone in any form of language or religion..for those who can discern truth….
The essence of what t
RULY IS….
LOVE
THE CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS..
FOR ONLY ONE OF
mAny mORe
wORds..phRases
th@deScribe
IT
JUST
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AS wELl
!
And no..this could never
happen without all the sacrifices of those
who suffered..died..or martyred
themselves
to
make US FREE
WITH LIBERTY
AND
JUSTICE
FOR
ALL
!
WITH A SIMPLE MESSAGE
OF UNCONDITIONAL
LOVE
IN
HARMING
NO
OTHERS
WITH TRUE WILL
KATiE MiA FredericK!iI 
More discussion to follow in the next comments..associated with the thread on the Wrong Planet website..that inspired this post:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf248060-0-30.html
MCalavera wrote:
The passage shows that he had a sense of grandiosity about him that was quite delusional. But then again, you’re familiar with that sense, OP.
Aghogday Wrote:
Well friend whether or not you live it..regardless of what the target of the belief or faith may be..they are real attributes for some individuals..that are extremely beneficial..to health and welfare in the now of the moment..
And yes that was all the real historical Jesus was concerned with ..the moment of now..
And a person’s will of ability through belief and faith to make good things happen for themselves…
He was just there to inspire..the folks with the faith and belief did all the leg work..
As JUST IS the case today..as faith and belief are a cornerstone of the health and welfare of many individuals..but no.. not all..as these attributes may not exist at all in some folks..that some people describe comparably as dead in affect and even potential effect too..
It’s pretty obvious that the OP is more of a happy blissful type of individual than most folks on this internet site..and all i can say about that is you go girl…..
Well anyway i’ve been to that place of heaven and bliss in NOW that is the power of belief and faith..
And well..i’ve been in that place of hell and the abyss that is the deficit of power of belief and faith..
And just in my opinion..i’ll choose the place the OP lives..at least a thousand times over that place i experienced without faith or belief..or what i describe as human hell..
As i am one of the fortunate ones or what one might call one with the grace or blessings of this thing some people describe as GOD or the Christ Consciousness or ‘whatever’….
As i have been living in the ‘better’ place as far as i see..most of my life..and nah i have faith and belief that i ain’t going back to ‘human hell’ again…
That cold dark place of little to no faith or belief in a higher power..that yes does exist for those who know it and take full advantage of IT….
Anyway i keep getting older stronger..and healthier..as long as i live in the LIGHT OF FAITH AND BELIEF..OR THAT THING THE HISTORICAL JESUS WAS TALKING TO IN REFERENCE TO THIS THING CALLED CHRIST..THE HIGHER POWER OF WHAT IS…
THAT YES..EXISTS ONLY FOR SOME PEOPLE..
AND NO.. ‘GOD’ IS NOT FAIR..NOT MUCH TO DO ABOUT THAT..AS IT IS WHAT IT IS…
BUT STILL BETTER TO BE IN THE BEST PLACE..THAN THE COLDEST PLACE OF A METAPHORICAL HUMAN HELL….
IN YAH..MY FRIEND..JUST MY OPINION..BUT THE BENEFITS FOR ME ARE SIMPLY BLISS..AND A PEACEFUL WAY OF LIFE…THAT I WOULD HOPE ANYONE COULD ATTAIN..THAT KEPT WORKING AT HAVING FAITH AND BELIEF IN A HIGHER POWER..
BUT HOPE IS ALL THAT IS…..
OR SHORTER PUT..
HOPE IS ALL tHERE IS….
AND MOST HORRIFYING TO BE SEPARATED FROM IT…
Again in just my opinion..
But that’s what this true will under love without doing any harm to others..is all about..
True Will for the individual..not necessarily reflective of the top of the bell curve of the herd…..
And yah..the OP is doing a very fine job of doing that core beauty of existence….
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MCalavera wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
The passage shows that he had a sense of grandiosity about him that was quite delusional. But then again, you’re familiar with that sense, OP.
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
No need for cheap shots. I am in no way delusional. Just trying to show people the way. I feel like it’s my duty to help get the message of the real Jesus through to people
Aghogday Wrote:
Well dude for people who really do know the real historical Jesus there is no other choice but to walk in his footsteps…
And part of that is to counter the myths that are spread about him today..
A sense of duty..is a human attribute that is more lacking in society these days..but people like the OP make me have hope for humanity overall..
At least a sense of duty..still exists in isolated pockets..
And if ya wanna call it zealous focus..that
s kool too…
There ain
t no doubt that Jesus is at least on the broader autism phenotype..as that historical dude did have an all pervasive laser focus on attaining the bliss that is in the heaven of now..and share a way for others to get there..
That have been limited by the patriarchal powers of the Church ever since the true gnostic gospels were hidden from public purview..including the reality that the lead apostle was likely Mary Magdalene not Peter..with even a rivalry going on to keep women down
”in their place’ at that time and much farther into the future…..
And nah ya do not get to do that for free to the OP either….
At least not here now….
And yah..i can provide the documentation on Mary Magdalene and the gnostic Gospels if ya like……
this..
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MCalavera wrote:
Don’t confuse grandiosity for confidence. This whole New Agey Christ Consciousness is grandiose in nature and not based in reality.
Aghogday wrote:
Sorry friend but in my opinion your opinion is incorrect..
The New Agey Christ Consciousness thingy..IS A REAL PHENOMENON AND IS THE REASON I AT 53 AM STRONGER THAN ANYONE IN THE ELITE MILITARY BASE I WORK OUT IN…on the Nautilus Machines there…
AND YAH..AS A PERMANENTLY DISABLED INDIVIDUAL..RETIRED FROM THE GOVERNMENT..WITH 19 MEDICALLY DOCUMENTED DISORDERS….
Couldn’t do it before..i got the Christ Consciousness..thingy..JUST 6 MONTHS AGO..or walk an alternating pattern IN forward and reverse..for close to 23 miles in a mall last Friday..while my wife shopped…
I WAS ALMOST A COMPLETE SHUT-IN FOR OVER 5 YEARS..BEFORE THAT….
No sh**..i’ve got the Christ Consciousness super powers..and documented evidence to back it up…..
If ya don’t have it sure it might seem grandiose..until it becomes your reality..if and when that could ever be possible..for a NON-believer…..with no faith….
But the most powerful thing i have in real life..IS THE HEALING POWER OF THE LIGHT AND LOVE OF THE CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS….
YA WOULD HAVE TO WITNESS THAT IN PERSON TO BELIEVE IT IF AND ONLY IF YOU HAD THE ABILITY TO FEEL IT..
AND SOME PEOPLE.. MOST SADLY.. DON’T…..
BUT THANK GOD RELATIVELY FEW PEOPLE WHERE I LIVE..AS A GREAT OVERALL PLACE FOR FAITH AND BELIEF IN THE HIGHER POWER THAT IS THE CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS OR WHATEVER YA MIGHT CHOOSE TO VERBALIZE IT AS….
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AND OH BY THE WAY..that power of THE belief thingy that is the crux of what the real historical Jesus was talking about..that could heal the medical disorders of people..
IS not just a fairy tale friend..
Modern science has measured IT AS A REAL MEDICALLY DOCUMENTED POWER…
The mind can either cure or make disorders happen..simply through the power of belief..
And there is at least some evidence that this just don’t work for people on the Autism Spectrum as neither the placebo or nocebo effect is effective for some folks on the Autism Spectrum..
But please don’t take my word for it..here is the evidence…..
And yes at this point the lack of a placebo effect of the power of suggestion..has only been tested so far among some people on the spectrum..in limited numbers to date..
But there is absolutely no reason to believe the nocebo effect would work in any other way..as it is essentially the same phenomenon..in how the human mind works…
I think i told you before that i do not believe in the supernatural…
And science IS finally catching up on some of what Jesus already knew about 2K years ago…
Practice makes perfect..and he simply took the time to practice it..to make it perfect enough to work……
And so do I..but it took over 5 decades to get there…
He did in a little over 3…….
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MCalavera wrote:
If you have a transcript I can go through, great. I’m not watching a 50 minute video that I have a strong feeling is based on terrible scholarship for the same reason I don’t bother watching the Zeitgeist movies.
Aghogday wrote:
With all Seriousness the religious scholar that did this research..Elaine Pagels is a highly decorated religious scholar known worldwide for her work on the gnostic Gospels..
Quote:
Elaine Pagels, née Hiesey, is the Harrington Spear Paine Professor of Religion at Princeton University. The recipient of a MacArthur Fellowship, she is best known for her studies and writing on the Gnostic Gospels.
She also ties in Buddhist influence in the real early Christianity in some of her other scholarly works…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elaine_Pagels
I did try to find a transcript for you..but there is none that i could locate..
She is an author of many books and the author of one specific to this topic..and I certainly do not expect you to go out to buy it..
But anyway she is the real deal when it comes to religious scholars there is no doubt about her professionalism per her academic record…
And she does present a compelling case to what the real Christianity was before it was tainted by the patriarchs that followed it who were in power in the Church..
These people altered it to serve their power and political purposes..and this has been going on for close to two thousand years…
True Christianity ..the crux of the true christianity..is not that Much different that hindu religions or buddhist religions..with the secret to Nirvana or Bliss IN THE MOMENT OF NOW..in clear sight for those who have the ability to DISCERN the essence of how to get there from the current teachings that exist…
What happened to me did happen almost overnight in the increase of almost all my human skills and abilities..
But the path there was not at all easy..with every moment of every day..not sure if it would be my last one..as the personal trial and tribulations to get there..was extremely painful and meticulously tedious…
But specifically the things that i found that worked were the type of ancient movements through a type of dance and yes even belly dance..that aligned the chakras in my body..opened them up to release all the negative energy stored in my over 5 decade life..
You can call it TAI CHI..eastern meditations..or whatever..but the path i found worked ..and it does seem that it is not too far from how Jesus actually got there either..among many..many..many human beings across the centuries..
And while i cannot prove it..my feeling is that animals exist in this plane of existence..almost all the time..
It is just that some humans are seriously ‘spiritually’ diseased..in a naturalistic way..as a byproduct of instant gratification..that is so prevalent in western cultures…
Humans are simply not evolved in the classic sense of evolution for instant gratification..
Instant gratification can seriously destroy the normal state of human homeostasis and the joy of just being here and existing…
Not unlike my cat stretched out in his Yoga pose..basking in the sun…
In fact.. precisely like my cat stretched out in his Yoga Pose basking n the sun…
What i am proposing and what Jesus was proposing my friend..is not rocket science at all..
It is just a return to how we were ‘before the apple’..to use a religious metaphor..that again..is just metaphor and myth…
Not sure why you oppose me so strongly as there is solid science behind what i am saying…
I am a scientist friend..not a woo dude…
I study the human condition..per all types of intelligence..not just the verbal..visual spatial..and mathematical oriented ones…
The intelligence of movement, emotional and existential ‘IQ’ is a real deal..it’s no myth…
I did not get where i am at without logic.. at all…
This is science friend..and YES THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY IS CATCHING UP ON IT….
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MCalavera wrote:
And I say that makes much more sense than to, out of nowhere, make Mary Magdalene to be someone bigger than she originally was (according to the earliest texts).
Aghogday wrote:
The gnostic gospels are real historical texts my friend..and they are not what is included in the New Testament..
This is where she is getting the documentation..
There is no doubt that what we see in the so called New Testament does not match what was actually early Christianity that was proposed by the real historical Jesus..
People have been holding down women to less that what their abilities are..for as long as patriarchs have been in control..
The times are simply changing now.. and along with that comes the egalitarian freedoms that are also not allowed in patriarchal cultures..such as homosexuality..etc….
The real Jesus was an egalitarian living in an extremely repressed patriarchal culture..
He was truly two thousand years ahead of his time..
But the fruition of what he proposed IS MOST DEFINITELY HAPPENing NOW..across the globe..and only accelerating as each day goes by..per the history of what is Patriarchy in so many countries across the world..
Middle Eastern countries..are currently left behind..but even that is changing as we speak NOW through freedom of expression..per IT devices such as twitter and blogs…
As Freedom of Expression rings!..farther and stronger..across the globe…
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MCalavera wrote:
What I’m disputing is the claim specifically made about Mary Magdalene historically being Jesus’ lead disciple.
Aghogday Wrote:
Well friend.. neither i or the religious scholar makes the actual claim that Mary Magdalene was the lead disciple ..the gnostic gospel religious text only points to that likelihood…
Likely is not a definitive claim.. it is a potential and probability…
And no.. there is no specific probability statistic mentioned..only the word ‘likely’..per study of the gnostic gospel texts…
But it does make logical sense from an historical perspective..that if she did have this type of influence that the record would be tainted from the general directive to keep women down..’in their place’..subservient as ‘cattle’ for reproduction for men..overall…
The myths of modern Christianity..such as Jesus is the only Son of GOD..and the physical virgin birth are not much different that the modern hyperbole that marketing techniques use to sell most any idea..or material object..to keep people motivated to buy a product.. whether it is a car or a philosophy..in a church..on Sunday morning to keep the ‘offering’ growing…
But really hard to say much about that from a personal judgmental attitude..per logic.. as emotional hyperbole..is part of human nature now..in the past..and will always be that way..as long as humans exist in their general current evolutionary form….
It’s just the way things are..and we would only be logical to make the best out of the real evidenced benefits for ourselves to make the most of the only thing we tRULY have..the moment of NOW…
To leave bliss and nirvana behind..when it is possible..
Is truly the insanity my friend…
Jesus was a friend..that is all…
With a path shared to get there…not unlike Buddha..Muhammad and all their ‘friends’……
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MCalavera wrote:
Except the likelihood was not good enough. The Gnostic texts, with the possible exception of the Gospel of Thomas, came after the canonical Gospels (at least the first three).
In fact, the Gospel of Mary is argued by most scholars to have been written in the second century.
Aghogday wrote:
It doesn’t matter which came first..what matters is what the culture of the time allowed to be put in effect..for the study of others…
Per restrictions of the strong patriarchal influence of those days…
There are no definitive answers in life..my friend anyway..
It is just a practice like medicine…
But the essence of the truth of what it means to be a human being..overall..never changes no matter who is doing the talking or designing the metaphors..either in verbal..written..or non-verbal communication….
That is.. until nature changes it..which is always the factual nature of life in general….
We can only hope to ride the wave in balance..until the time of our death..
That is all..and that is overall what the real historical Jesus..Muhammad..and Buddha…and all their
‘friends’ discussed..in real terms of human affect and effect of the moment of now..not some fairly tale of tomorrow or yesterday….
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MCalavera wrote:
Nevertheless, some of the Epistles and the synaptic Gospel books in the New Testament have been quite useful in helping scholars figure out some truths about Jesus and the earliest Christians.
They’re not just bundles of contradictions “all over”. They seem to support each other as well in many ways.
Aghogday Wrote:
Well yeah..none of this communication in recollecting a historical event is perfect as human communication never is..in totality..anyway..
But here’s the thing..the essence of human and universal truth can be found in most religions..
The contradictions that exist..beyond the ‘golden rule’..are really nothing to lose sleep over…
Unless a person is all caught up in black and white thinking..
And yah..some of us know where that can lead..
It is not a place for the win ..by far..in the long run….
My cat knows as much about how to live in Unison with GOD as any dam religion..
But nah..i can’t prove it..it’s my autistic ‘spider’ senses at work…
That i know make it true..
Just another type of intelligence that not all people share equally….
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And the next few comments in response to my favorite spiritual internet friend Lala Rukh or White Pearl and her new daily prompt posts..from Word Press..always creative and out of the box…
katiemiafrederick says:
December 23, 2013 at 11:12 pm
Well..i think the healthiest thing in the world is to be silly at least once a day..so you seem really..really healthy today!
Today.. and i am looking to hear some more silly things..
From Ya..so joy..love..laughter and all of that 2 ya!
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Lala Rukh says:
December 24, 2013 at 12:04 pm
Lol yeah I was being silly , the prompt was silly and it made my mood that way. I am glad you are reading my silly thoughts too. Thank you so much. Love you xx
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katiemiafrederick says:
December 24, 2013 at 12:09 pm
Well..although i don’t do much silly writing..i am extremely silly in ‘real life’..more than most children..i believe in play as a way of life..in fact..in the real one i live….It is my life…I’m just a big kid..that is all…
But not having to work..really helps with that..;)
I wish the same for ya..one day friend…
katiemiafrederick says:
December 24, 2013 at 7:46 pm
That is beautiful and sad..and i’m glad it is not you that is the subject of your writing for this one…
There are some feelings that can never fully be expressed in writing..but you make an effort here ..that presents this feeling i think….
Love and i would say happy holidays to ya..if ya had them..i guess…
Sometimes that’s easy to forget too….
They came so fast for me this year..they are almost gone before i noticed them….
i didn’t even have an opportunity to put all of the blow up 8FT polar bears and all of that in my yard..to shine it out to the neighbors…
And for the most neither did they..so i guess here where i live..people are for the most part too busy living..to live….
The NOW moment is always the best..i think..so maybe that’s why i missed it this year..to put it in a positive light..i guess…:)
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Lala Rukh says:
December 26, 2013 at 9:59 am
Thank you so very much again for liking what I wrote ad for the beautiful thoughts. Well I have made my effort to let you feel those feelings.
You are right…The NOW moment is always the best. Happy holidays to you too đŸ™‚ Hope you are having a good time. Love xx
katiemiafrederick says:
December 23, 2013 at 1:05 am
Well dear there is never a doubt for me that your soul is beautiful but you truly show the beauty of your heart here..finally..as a most beautiful open one…
My tears are for your culture..and the repression that is so much a part of it..that is at least in part responsible for some of your pain….
Well it is certainly a gift that the blogging experience is within your freedom for expression..
And again i thank you as you gave me the courage to finally put a closure on a first love..that did remain idealized for me..just until several years ago..
I can better see the beauty of my wife’s heart..without the ideal of something..i truly never had…
And i only can hope that your future husband’s heart will have that same beauty…and although it might take you 34 years or perhaps forever to lose any of your love for ‘him’ .. but i still love my first love 2..in the perfect allah love kind of way..
And yah..i do not see why you could not love your first love like that forever too..and still be within the tRueallah’s..Graces…
Love is beautiful..and it truly means never ever never…
Having to say your sorry for loving anyone..whether it is a first love..or even someone other people think is a horrible person…
Love is True is LOVe is Allah IT IS ALL tHerE is at the core of all of our existence….
So i love you dear..and thanks again for the connection with you..that has better helped me love everyone else…
AS sAme…..
In th@perfect Love th@ISallah…
By the way ..i love the snow effects…
DAm ..i’m stuck here in the sun..and never get to see the snow..at Christmas..except for a few times..when I was younger…a fluke of a flake of snow..but LOVE should never be that way….
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katiemiafrederick says:
December 23, 2013 at 1:16 am
OH..and i forgot to tell you..as you may remember i dance alone with allah everywhere i go now..in a kind of walk dance..even in public stores..
Well yesterday..to celebrate the Winter Solstice.. i danced with Allah for over 8 hours..and 23 miles..at the mall where my wife shopped…
MY NIKE PLUS..watch with GPS measured it…
So as you might fathom..i am deeper in love with Allah than ever before…
Considering i could not raise my arms without almost fainting..5 years ago..just walking at all is miracle enough from allah for me..
But as they say..if you have the faith in allah..
OH MY GOD..ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE….
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Lala Rukh says:
December 24, 2013 at 11:28 am
Ok that’s nice đŸ™‚
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Lala Rukh says:
December 24, 2013 at 11:28 am
Well yes Friend I am too against some things in my culture… They may be long term beneficial but for the short term, they seems cruel and we have to go through the short terms to reach the long ones. Love is beautiful no doubt and I don’t know about my future husband’s heart at all right now. I just hope everything goes well. I love the snow effects too đŸ˜‰ Why are you stuck in the sun ? Don’t you have snow fall there ?
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katiemiafrederick says:
December 24, 2013 at 11:32 am
I live in Florida..and although it is the North part it hasn’t snowed here in years..
I haven’t had to wear anything but shorts yet..and it is now into the winter..but i am little more hardy than most folks..and rarely get cold anyway…
I’m really not complaining though..as i do love the Sun..but Snow has always felt like magic to me..and i would love to experience it some more..:)
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Lala Rukh says:
December 24, 2013 at 10:04 pm
Oh Okaay That’s nice đŸ™‚
katiemiafrederick says:
December 26, 2013 at 5:39 pm
Well dear..that IS certainly meeting your goal of presenting your creation activity in out OF the box ways..!
My biggest lesson of life..when succumbing to total human exhaustion about 6 years ago..NOW..was my visits with my 94 year old aunt..who at that time could run circles around the diminished man i had become at 48…
But the LIGHT OF LOVE THAT WAS HER..WAS GREATER THAN ANY INFIRMITY..that slowed her progress in each small step with a walker just to go to one side of the room to the other…
I was tired from a sentence of verbally replying to her..but still with her great positive spirit..regardless if she could hardly walk..her spirit carried her voice to great heights of positive light and love…
So too..while the face may grow older..and the reproductive tingles…may cease to exist..the SONG OF LOVE that IS SPIRIT OF HUMAN..NEVER..EVER..NEVER..GROWS OLD..
IT ONLY DIES..and YeS to be reborn again if HOPE..EVEN IN empty vehicles and vessels of words never ceases…IN ONE LIFETIME AS YOU KNOWnow MY FRIEND..FROM hearing other people’s experiences as well as listening to your own….
BUT aLL I CAN SAY is WoW..your words and creation activity…are telling me you are singing a SONG OF LIFE ONCE MORE…..LOVEXX
AND YES! YOU WILL IT TO CONTINUE…
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Lala Rukh says:
December 27, 2013 at 12:14 pm
Thank you so much, once again ! Words are not enough to thank you for all your support and presence and love and care you show everyday ! Thank you.
You are so right, heart needs to be young and you are young even if you are of 94 years or 100 years. very lovely message. Thank you so much for all this appreciation. Love xx
katiemiafrederick says:
December 27, 2013 at 12:58 pm
Gosh..i can remember feeling trapped on this Planet..and realizing that there was no one but me and Allahgodallah..to complain to…
And then it felt like home again..and not an atmosphere i could not exist in..
And yes..i am serious about that..even the atmosphere of the beach was too oppressive for me to breathe freely…
The saddest thing..is ‘zombies’ do live like this on our planet now..and they only hope to be found and loved back to life…
So..no you do not scare me at all..When i get to your planet i am only gonna have hope..and do the same i am doing now..
Share that hope with you…..
LOVEXXK
katiemiafrederick says:
December 22, 2013 at 4:49 am
Yeah..i think Karma is a real thing..
But Karma also applies to individuals who do not forgive the transgressions of others…as that almost always turns into a dark spot of hate on the soul..that can make it eventually a black hole sun…
But friend.. although it is not clear in your words if you take pleasure now.. in the fall of your transgressors as revenge after the fact of forgiveness…
If a person takes pleasure in the fall of a transgressor….
Well..they never truly forgave them..in my best estimation…
Trueallahlove has no transgressors..for the long term…
Or happiness of revenge…
As far as i can see too…
But anyway..it is human nature to take the joy of the falls of others..whether they are transgressors..or simply competitors..
But with conscious effort a person can change that too..potentially..but it is one of the hardest things about human nature to change..even with conscious effort…
lovexx
By the way.. did ya ever forgive your hacker?..if he is not included in the post effort above….
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Lala Rukh says:
December 22, 2013 at 9:27 pm
Your estimation is right …. I don’t feel pleasure in watching them suffer now…I have forgiven them already . I can’t feel joy on sufferings of others.Your words seem so right. Oh and I almost forgot about the hacker….and look at you, you remember that ! How lovely of you. I haven’t forgiven him till now as I am still scared he can do more. May be I will someday when I would be sure he can’t do me any harm. Thanks for your comment. Love xx
katiemiafrederick says:
December 20, 2013 at 1:58 pm
The feeling this gives me is that the hunger blocked the mans gratitude for his life..and he saw that materialistic riches..are nothing compared to life..
I can imagine that when you observe people in life..you find it easy to take in the perspective of others..perhaps easier then your own…
This is what makes great writers..truly being able to connect to the hurt and joy of other people..
I think you will do great doing this..
It has been so overwhelming to me most of my life..as far as the intensity i feel of other people’s struggles in life..that i had to find a way to block it out to continue to exist..
But ..like you here..if i had found a way to write about it to let it all out..when i was 21..
who knows what i would be writing now at 53…
You have a long road ahead of you friend…
And novels of beautiful things to write…
That’s your gift..and it will inspire many other people..as long as you continue on that journey of writing..and never give up..on it..lovexx
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Lala Rukh says:
December 21, 2013 at 7:01 am
Basically hunger caused that man to steal from the people who just met an accident….. I read that news in a newspaper that people are stealing this way and formed a story. Thank you so much for the detailed analysis of story….I am glad you have confidence in me. I will try not to let you down. I know I have a long road ahead…I will try not to fall down from the road….I will try to keep walking slowly and continuously. Thanks for your support ! Love xx
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katiemiafrederick says:
December 21, 2013 at 7:26 am
Not only do i have confidence in you ..but in part.. your stories continue to inspire me in other stories..
like this..
And for caution there are some PG rated photos in that post..to grab attention..of some folks i interact with in the states who don’t have much emotion at all…
And i did mention your name and inspiration in that post..as you are freely providing it here now..please let me know if that is not okay for the future…the lala rukh name..that is…
And i had a family member who died today..and of course that was the main source of inspiration..2….
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Lala Rukh says:
December 21, 2013 at 3:26 pm
Thank you đŸ™‚
And an incredibly beautiful poem addressing the dark and light of WHATIS..BY Arindham Saha:
Existence in Void
Arindam Saha / 24 hours ago
Listen O you! the worshiper of almighty
The admirer of lord, the supreme deity
You admire the lord the master of the living
The great, the mighty, peaceful and forgiving
The creator of of worlds – the heavens and hell
And the wonderful earth on which we dwell
He created love, and peace and affection
He created gratitude, humility and devotion.
But O the Admirer, please ask your lord
If everything around is his accord
Then why are there sorrows and tears and pain?
Why is the world ruthless, uncaring and insane?
Why is there anger and deceit and sin?
Why does a person fight his own kin?
Why are there earthquakes and droughts and flood?
Why is there terror, stained in blood?
O seeker, the inquisitive, intelligent and wise
Take a greater view and you shall realise
That joys of achievement, satisfaction and gain
And tears of sorrow, misery and pain
Are all just ways and means to find
A joy ecstatic, and peace of mind
The will to live stems from fears
Smiles are cherished by those who have tears
We do unite in times of despair
And realise the common bond we share
That feelings of affection and hatred exist
Are reasons that we still persist
So cherish the tears which you try to avoid
As they are the reason for your existence in void…
katiemiafrederick December 27, 2013 at 9:13 pm
Well..all i can really say is WOW too..this is for me the most beautiful collection of words you write to date…
This balance of darkness and light for WHATIS IS so important to acknowledge..and oh yes..you acknowledge IT with your words..so well here…
Yah..i will be quoting and linking this poem in my blog..and will honor it for some time to come….
And more from the Wrong Planet website on Philosophy, Science and Religion…
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt248198.html
Aghogday wrote:
DISMISSING any available tool in life..that can be used to have a better life..is not logical in my opinion…
Philosophy is simply the tool of metaphor to get to the crux of truth..
Science is the measuring tool to validate what we suggest is reality…
And religion..is simply the greatest tool of all from an historical perspective to get people together binding them with social emotional contagion to produce the total effect of love and comfort for each other…
The details really are not that important..as long as no one is harmed…
I go to the Catholic Church and i can easily overlook the literal beliefs that Jesus was the only son of GOD..arose from the DeAD..and born of the Virgin Mary..
Yah..obviously that’s bullshit..no one if fooling me with the hyperbole that was developed to keep people fearful..control women’s reproductive freedom..and give people something to hope for after death..if this life was too hard to tolerate…
But that’s the historical past..
No need to fear these things anymore..and women do have reproductive rights with the separation of Church and State..and seriously if people will just stand up for their rights..like i do when i invoke my rights to accommodations under the ADA..they can pretty much ‘do as thou wilt’ right now.
Unless they put themselves in their own prisons..
But here’s the thing..when a person feels emotional contagion..and can share love..the church can be the greatest thing..if one can avoid the black and white thinking of if oh sh**…i don’t agree with this or that..
I go to Casinos with groups..get free dinners..visit friends i have known all my life that go to this church.get invited to parties..and all of that..
And guess what..my church celebrates every human being..as not to be rejected by others..whether or not they are homosexual..have a different religion or whatever..
Cause the priest that leads it went to school with me..in a time and place where these discriminations were finally fading from public purview…
Philosophy..religion..and science are all vital parts of the human experience and yes..overall human intelligence..
Church can increase emotional intelligence..and philosophy can increase existential intelligence..
And Love is just great..
That is all..
To leave any component behind..is simply foolish ..in my best estimation..for the long run that is the whole of life..
And just remember if yah.ain’t got no kids..and ya grow old and all of that..and don’t get married..
Having the kind of social network provided by a church..can be the difference in the long run between life or death..
Even in an example as simple as a friend from church checking on ya..in your apartment if you haven’t been to church in a while..and yes caring and loving individuals in church do..do that for people..
A person ain’t gonna get that..unless they are connected to some group of human beings in real life…
The internet..don’t work that way…
It’s really just common sense..human common sense….
And there simply are not many organizations anymore..not even dam bowling leagues..to provide a long term third place in life..to develop friendships..that really last..real caring friendships..not a selfish way of life…
Where people simply help each other in times of love and need…..
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TallyMan wrote:
pete1061 wrote:
Philosophy is what leads science in a direction of what to explore next.
aghogday wrote:
Science is the measuring tool to validate what we suggest is reality…
Tallyman Wrote:
You both are expressing similar sentiments there. There have been occasions that philosophy guided science, but that is eclipsed nowadays by directions that science itself opens for us to explore. Science has uncovered mysteries that are way beyond the capability or language of philosophy to express. You only have to go beyond the realms of everyday human experience into realms of quantum physics or relativity to see that philosophy has nothing to say; we are in the realms of mathematics and physics. Science is showing us the true nature of reality, it is far more sophisticated and intricate than any philosophy envisaged.
Science has uncovered many mysteries and also opened the door to many more. It is not guided by philosophical principles; it has a momentum of its own.
Aghogday Wrote:
Well..while this is true..science is also catching up on philosophy..even the philosophy of empathy and love..
The mind is still an uncharted territory..and there are still some aspects of the mind that only philosophy can fully address for all the nuances of life that truly exist..
But here’s the thing..not all individuals experience these nuances of life in a equal way..so the philosophy of nuances are seriously here to stay…
Psychiatrists are far from fully understanding the mind..and sometimes it is only the personal philosophy of one person..who can even cure what ails the mind…
And seriously what the f**k is more important in life than human happiness..
And please don’t tell me that ain’t important..and seriously while you may not do this..if you did..would it seriously be true?
But there again..the philosophy thing..
Science is still light years of addressing the simple question of why to go on..as that relates to each and every unique individual..
At least in some cases.. only personal philosophy can answer that…
There are more mysteries in this life..than in any textbook for science..
And more words to fill those textbooks..that not even philosophy has created yet…
But..this unique to each and every individual..
For some people there are no questions..
For other people..there are no answers..
But for yet other people…there is only seeking..
Only seeking the truth of ALL of WHATIS..that no
Science will never likely ..fully illustrate..in words..figures..or equations….
Some people already have those answers..friend..
But they are only for them…..
At times2
And by the way..what we suggest is reality..is simply an hypothesis..whether informal or formal…
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TallyMan wrote:
pete1061 wrote:
The only point I really want to emphasize here is the difference between spirituality and religion. They are by no means the same thing.
Tallyman wrote:
This may come as a surprise to you, but I agree with you. đŸ˜†
I have nothing to do with organized religion but I am loosely speaking a Zen Buddhist Atheist. I was actually a monk in my youth. I probe (external) reality with the tools of science and (internal) reality with the tools of meditation and mindfulness.
Aghogday wrote:
Well Tallyman..it appears you may be in ‘good’ company…
When I go to church and see the Jesus statue hanging there mostly naked in a Yoga pose on the front wall..NOw that the Catholic Church has finally moved to progressive enough to remove the cross..
i think to myself..oh my god..he would turn over in his grave..if he knew that people were worshipping the flesh of his body..
When all the f**k he was saying..is bliss is in the now of the moment..not yesterday..not tomorrow..or not after death..
But something about 40 days..and meditating in the desert..can bring a realization like that..
IN mindful awareness…
But not much political power in the church ..with Zen Buddhism..huh….
NO not much…
So we’ve got what we’ve got..
Which is basically nothing but a fairy tale without the moral of the story…..
But wait..some people understand the real deal…IS ALL….
And if you made it through the video..it lends the song Kashmir by Led Zeppelin
a ‘whole’ ‘new’ meaning…
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KATiE MiA FredericK!iI
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OH..I WAS SO ANGRY TODAY..I COULD HAVE SPIT NAILS..
A deacon at my Catholic Church was allowed to present a homily today…
And the content of that Homily was a diatribe against homosexual marriage..and even the potential for same sex couples to raise ‘normal’ kids…
Well..as you might know i am quite uninhibited these days..and was going to give him a
‘peace’ of my mind..
But my wife held me off..and instead i vented to the Monsignor xxxxx that is always a man of Christ of what i see so far…
Here in this text..altered only for a couple of typos i made in the original..with no expectation of reply but only assertion of what i truly believe…
Good afternoon Mgsr. xxxxxx..
Today after Mass..you asked me IF everything is well..and well.. while I was tempted to tell you why not then..i did not…
I’m a little uninhibited these days..perhaps reasonably too much at times..as Katrina sometimes indicates..but yes.. there is a time for appropriate decor..and church today was not the place to amplify the current..any further..in the air..
The current of hate my friend..
The current of hate my friend..
You see..my first day at middle school..smiling and excited to be there and meet new friends..the first words out of hall mate mouths were you can’t smile here faggot that’s not allowed..
Well..being on the autism spectrum ..with that itself not diagnosed until midlife.. with little understanding of social cues..or sarcasm..i had no idea what the word meant..but it was clear there was hate behind it..
For Whatever reason.. even though i was only attracted to girls from kindergarten and beyond..people assumed i was gay most of my life..
I don’t know..maybe i smiled too much..or did not act assertively enough…
Yes..i had no father to mimic in early life..a grandmother.. a sister..and a mother was all there was in life…
But anyway..my masculinity finally caught up with me..in midlife..and people no longer question that..
But i have to tell you..people telling you..you basically don’t deserve to either be happy or even live at times..because of a natural way that GOD makes some people..
Is a horrible way of hate..and when they say some kids no longer want to live..cause you know as GOD creates social animals..they really do have to be accepted and not rejected to want to live..THIS IS THE TRUTH….
BUT HERE’S THE THING..WHETHER OR NOT ANYONE LIKES IT OR NOT..AS SCIENCE INDICATES.. WHEREVER THERE ARE HUMAN BEINGS..IN ANY ONE GROUP INCLUDING CHURCH TODAY..
3 TO 5 PERCENT ARE HOMOSEXUALS.. CAUSE THAT IS PART OF GOD’S PLAN OF NATURE WHETHER IT STRIKES ANY ONE PERSON’S FANCY OR NOT…
OK..to be clear MGSR xxxxxx.. I am not mad at you..with the caps and all of that..
And the only saving grace of today for me..for continuing my home at your Catholic Church is those words did not come out of your mouth…
And please do not feel you need to express anything to me over this email..
But..i would not walk in the footsteps of Jesus..if i kept my mouth shut…
NO hell no..i was not going to do that..overall..
As not only were the words of Deacon xxxxxx..words of hate today..they are also words of death or even murder…
As there are some kids out in the audience..that are LIKELY on the last strand of the last rope they have in life..OF HOPE TO GO ON….
Yes.. part of that 3 to 5 percent that GOD MAKES THAT EXISTS EVERYWHERE THAT HUMANS EXIST IN LIFE…
My loving Xstepmother’s wonderful husband passed away this week..
And in attending the funeral driving to Tallahassee in all that rain and all of that..YESTERDAY..
The bright moment of the day..was an offering of words given by the two pastors at the United Church of Christ ..
And yes they were both homosexual women..who could only be partners..in life..as marriage is still not allowed in Florida for ‘folks like that’….
But the light of Christ in the those women’s eyes..and their adopted Children were Brighter than anything that Mr. xxxxxx..could likely imagine..my friend…
So with them in mind..instead of love..i felt the hate of Mr. xxxxxx today..and reflected THAT right back at him instead of singing today..but with a raspy throat from a week long cold that probably would not have happened anyway.. today…
So i guess it is good that i HAVE to wear sunglasses OVER A medical issue.. as no one saw the daggers in my eyes..that reflected MR. xxxxxx’s hate…
And to get that taste of hate out of my mouth..AND DAGGERS OUT OF MY EYES..i walked with my earphones on ..and listened to someone besides Mr. xxxxxxx..who truly walkS in the footsteps of the real Historical Jesus..CHRIST….
Not some made up man to control the patriarchal ways of the time..to keep women..and people who are born differently..in the place of that culture of that time….
So SINCE you are a very busy man..and i only have love and respect for every word OF CHRIST LOVE i HEAR come out of your mouth so far at church…
I WILL LEAVE YOU HERE WITH THE links to the HOMILY THAT BROUGHT MY SOUL BACK TO LIFE..TODAY…
NOT SURE if you have time to see the beauty of pop culture..that equals the love of THE REAL CHRIST THESE DAYS….
AND THANKS..for letting me vent here..as i really had to do this..
To move back to LOVE..at the church..to once again..be there..singing in the light of LOVE that is the True JESUS CHRIST..
WHO WOULD NEVER EVER NEVER EVER EXCLUDE OR NOT ACCEPT ANYONE BASED ON HOW GOD MADE THEM TO LIVE ON THIS BEAUTIFUL PLANET CALLED EARTH…
LOVE YOU FRIEND..AND I guess we can’t thrOW the baby out with the bath water..huh..cause of ‘dirty water’ that still exists…
So i will pray for AND WITH you to keep delivering that TRUE MESSAGE OF CHRIST THAT YOU SO ELOQUENTLY SPEAK WHENEVER YOU ARE CALLED TO WALK IN HIS FOOTSTEPS AS ONE…
AND yes to accept the things that neither you or i cannot change still in the 21st century..
But at least thank GOD the POPE IS ENLIGHTENED ENOUGH TO HEAR THE TRUE WORDS OF CHRIST..
AS HE ONLY SAYS WHO AM I TO JUDGE..WHEN PRESENTED WITH WHETHER OR NOT GAY FOLKS SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO MARRY..
LIKE ANY OTHER LOVING HUMAN COUPLE..
JUST TO LOVE AND LIVE LIKE CHRIST….
RESPECTFULLY AND WITH LOVE..fred
And here IS the great response back..from Monsignor xxxxxxx..
Dear Fred,
I too was disturbed by the homily this morning and did speak to the deacon after Mass. While I don’t think he meant to speak words of hate, he did not offer the hope that should have come from the pulpit. Growing up in Milton and being hated because I was Catholic, I certainly understand your concerns. Thank you for praying for our parish community as we journey together as people of faith and love. Msgr. xxxxx
Well..when it comes to Jesus Christ and Love..anyone who TRULY walks in those footsteps could reasonably be called CHRIST..
SO tHere might as well be a Msgr. Christ at my church..
And even a Katy Christ or a Macklemore Christ as well..in pop culture..
The message of unconditional LOVE IS UNDENIABLY THE SAME LOVE..
FOR ALL HUMAN BEINGS REGARDLESS OF DIFFERENT WAYS OF THINKING AND BEING….
LOVE IS ALLITIS….