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I talk a lot about Love, Light, lack of hate and personal judgement..and True Will.. but the greatest human attribute of all i see is human gratitude…
IN fact, if I had my way I would re-label this human attribute as GREAtitude..
IN fact..I might spell IT this way to get your attention..in fact..i think i will from NOWon..
So here IT IS…
GRE@ITude
And yeah.. the IT is included by fruition on purpose as an after effect for a culture programmed to see everything me..a subconscious go GitHer if one wills..TOgetHER…
AS IT…
Well.. here’s a little more personal history again.. which i can also apologize for as IT is probably getting repetitive for anyone who IS truly following my blog who KNOWnow my intent is fully positive in total effect…
Without sleep in 35 hours of sleep in 40 days with 1 hour each of the first 35 with assistance of an alpha blocker and none possible in the last 5 until hospitalization and a much more powerful drug..after Total human exhaustion..along with accompanying pain of atypical trigeminal neuralgia like dagger in the right eye and ear..along with fibromyalgia..severe arthritis with the congenitally fused T6 vertebrae..dysautonomia..vasovagal pre syncope..Sjogren Syndrome..severe anxiety..PTSD..Panic Attacks..Severe Depression..Alexithymia…
ADHD..and other various issues.. including an Autism Spectrum Disorder..comes a place ‘none’ as hell..a place where every second can be a thousand years of human hell at the bottom of a pit of 40 almost sleepless days…
There is a place where there is a nothingness..that exists..where even the worst pain disappears and then there is hope for any pain to remove that nothingness from the existence that IS…
Time no longer has any many meaning.. so forever is 1 second in impact of a thousand metaphorical years of hell…
Well…
AS you might understand now..and then as became the case..even the experience of pain became a sacred experience for gratitude…and death that could elicit emotions in an otherwise stone cold heart became a pleasure greater than all others when a beloved pet that I could no longer truly love without emotions died..last April…
So now that I regained the human sight that I lost..I spend my time taking photos of nature and even my own face..celebrating both the beauty of nature and the expressions of my face that did not exist anywhere in my universe for about 60 months or so…
When ALL i had is letters, numbers and words..the letters and numbers became symbols for my Universe..as when mankind first developed them they were artistic expressions of the Universe that surrounded man in visible sight in connections in stars that cross the sky..and the golden spirals that make the nature of galaxies..Nautilus shells..fetuses..and all the other patterns of nature that exist and are shared across the Universe as a pattern of life of ALL th@ IS…
So now everything is sacred to me..even a blade of grass or a grain of sand..but you see this is the way I saw life as child anyway without going through the human hell that was my destiny to be after three.. some 40 to 50 years later..as the innocent child of forever I used to be…
And so wh@ can I do now but share this sacredness of ALL i see..
I say ‘seyes’ to ALL that IS..as ALL IS sacred even ADOLPH HITler..and the mythological being described as the devil..that is a symbol of the dark side of human nature that any human can fall to given the destiny of potential circumstances…
So I say evilivedevilive for one simple purpose..as what is above makes what is below what makes what is above..and the cycle of life goes on…
Yeah.. that movie ‘the Lion King‘ had IT correct as far as I see as the CIRclE of life goes on like a Golden Spiral..or a Nautilus shell…
And you see my friend..even if I Am dead now..this is my Nautilus shell…
As you come across IT…
NOW…
So I say what do you leave behind for others..inspiration to love and live or to hate and die…
IT is only your WiLL as if you come across this when I Am dead all I can do is ‘pray’ for ‘you’ now..in words..that you read at this moment NOW….
But in life It is the Passion Inspired by emotions that move humans ahead..and I do have this passion again NOw..so what I do is share..as IT is hard to keep that level of passion to one’s self alone…or @ONE….
wELl..I guess I have my new blog post now..
Titled Gre@ITude…
But no rush..as this one is still fresh..I guess…
And certainly with a title like IS IT OK to Luv Lucifer IT will be one of a kind for some time to come..on a Google search..for anyone to come across some of these unusual thoughts….
RAndomly.. but not like random..if ONE WILLS..in TOTAL positive effect or impact however one may perceive IT…
but..
I publishNoW..
with more to come..
as
as
any
one
I am only a car accident away from
de@h
as
anyone else…
As
TH@
is
Truly the most dangerous thing we do…
Drive..
But
oh
yeah!
People spend their insecurities..
on
fears
that
have
no logic…
And I will wait to post to
http://katiemiaaghogday.blogspot.com
and
http://katiemiafrederick.blogspot.com
until all the multimedia
elements
are
included as WordPress can be
much harder to open than Blogspot Blogs
with all the multimedia elements that I include
for
WHATEVER
reason…
But I’m certainly not complaining as most of IT is a wonderful
Gift provided by modern technology that takes up very few financial resources…
IT
IS
The best time for potential human creativity without regard to name.. financial resources..
or
All the other disadvantages before that could keep truly gifted people from making their best!
Contribution to the total effect of potential survival for their species…
tHIS
IS
WH@
Social Animals Do…
They TAke care of each other..
In
Anyway they can…
Whatever the disability
may
be that might otherwise limit
their Contributions to the ALL Th@IS…
Well..
My greatest gratitude in life IS…
Most definitely for Adversity..
The more severe.. the better so far…
But
Diversity
IS
FaR.. FAR.. Far…
a way..
for
me..mm
NOW!
SO I WILL GO with the flow
for
NOW…
IT seems i’ve been
in the following videos
forever
with out leaving home!
My Personal!
THEME
Song
Way
to GO1!
SO!
IAM
GLAD
IAM
Born tHIS
perSON AS I understand
Fully
Wh@
IT
Means to be the
Underdog!
And cannot TRE@
Any
one
the way I was
treated in middle school..
told
I
did not
deserve to exist…
In too many ways to count!
So
yeah!
I AM changed
but
my roots are stILL
solID…
so once again me @13
And
me@53..
Well..
I guess.. I still have a little
feminine flair..
if one
wills..
and
my wife viewed
me dancing in the back
yard in my underwear to
Madonna’s
Song
Frozen
and
said I danced
Gay..whatever that means…
so
I guess I’ll celebrate with these 2songs2..
as gay is Kool2..but yeah if anything I lean toward asexual
as
a
nother sexual orientation…
Sex IS
rather bland compared
to
Bliss..so please
do
not
feel too ‘bad’ for some of those
blissful priest folks either..the Catholic
Ones
ya may knownow…
But anyway here are the songs…
When I was in my twenties..I danced..
and I danced..and I danced..and I kept on dancing!
And I sang and played the piano and kept on singing and playing!
I’ll never
forget
an older woman in a beach
bar coming up to me and telling me I had the
best
butt
ever..for a man..
well..if that has anything
to do with gay looking dancing..
I’ll
take
I
t..
as any compliment..
IS GOoD.. and yeah..gay is Kool2!
When I first went to middle school at age 11
the boys
told
me
Hey f*****
and no that does not spell Fred…
Boys don’t smile like th@@ALL the time!
Yeah..
I smile now again..
and even prance my little finger
around
when
I do my superwalmart dancing!
AS I am free and unashqmed to be me!
i left
the Q4Queer bird…
As yeah! although I only ‘like’ girls!
I AM definitely what one calls a GAY BIRD!
a
mav
e
rick..
Frederick or whatever…
@least part of whatever that IS….
and well I still haven’t provided the songs…
but
I
t’s
reALLYinteresting now
as when you look big and strong you can
look
as gay as you want to prancing..dancing..spinning..
around Super Walmart and people will not even glance
at
you in
a demeaning way..
but the kids will laugh as they
are even kooler than me and fearless2…
I
suppose th@
IS wh@ IS called the
REvenge of the Nerds..as US Nerds
Geeks..Autistic Folks..oppressed..whoever..work
extra
hard to survive..
so in effect.. sometimes by the
time we reach our 50’s we become superhuman
in
Affect…
Didn’t look like there
was much chance that 13 year old boy
would be growing a six pack at 6FT and 222Lbs@53..
but
with
perseverance and the
will to survive anything and yes I do
mean anything is possible in this life…
so..
Thanks oppressors!
I took your unsolicited advice to
heart!
and
AM
stronger than you
could ever imagine making me..
through
your Kool
advice to get a way to survive…
so I did th@
and I can prove It2
as I can even curl 210 Lbs
with those
Fred Arms…2
And I suppose yOUR oppression was
also in effect..part of training to survive…
the
real problems
in life..per health issues in the last years…
So those
bullies..you are
my heroes in a very unusual way…
But since I didn’t have a father at home my biggest
hero IS the..
6 million dollar man…
no? i didn’t get that much money..but I did
eventually become the 6 million word man..and
have
been referred to
in the record at ‘wrong planet’
in
an oppressive spirited way..as the 7 thousand word man!
HA..HA..that’s kool!
Words are some of my
favorite friends..
and my other gratitude is for
anyone that can stand up to be my true friends..
I
feel like I have
@least one..which isgreaterthan none…
as I lived there for many years in my life…
of course family are always my true friends….
even
my f@her at times..although yeah!
he was afraid I was gay…
but not
any
more…
I’m lucky I wasn’t as suicide might
have been an option..
then!
So yeah…
I understand the value of supporting everyone..
in this life endeavor…
Even the bullies..
if one wills..
to
help them
find the light too..of love…
onemanship..or womanoneship…
for heSheship…for ALL!
ONE
NOWON!
ON course!
OF
COUrageCourse!
Oh CHR***
there goes the ADHD..so finally hear..here are those videos…
NOW!
including another timely one…
in a synchronistic kind of way..as I loved girls in kindergarden too…
in a romantic way…
I had no idea
what sex was..
even with instruction until i found my first girlfriend at 18 and she
showed me the way…
She was 15 but much smarter than me in that way….
I guess I just wasn’t meant to have children…someone had something else planned for me..after my one child..suffered and died…
He had the real challenge..ALL he livedevil IS pain…
And please do not try to tell me th@ babies are too young to know pain…
I AM still there…
with
hIM..2
And I must be grateful to th@ saMe
first
girl friend for breaking
my heart as IT was the inspiration for my first
true experience with GOD in a verbal kind of way…
where
I could actually measure GOD in my life…
in an objective type of way..
as my logic always demanded proof of most everything in life…
But before th@
I was taught well 2fear the devil…th@ old
mythological creature…
that inspired the fear
of horns in
me…
then but certainly
not now..
as fearless is a way 2light
overall..when not warranted..of course…2
And God is only one to be revered and loved not feared…
iN
my
own
true will
opinion…
10122013
Columbus Day…
10
1
Most definitely IS going to be a gre@ITude DAY!
Oh yeah..and hearherearethoseother2songs..2
And I must honor girl ‘friend”Sonia’..top right..who showed me the way…
and inspired me
to find
GOD…
The Love greater than any
emotional or jealous love to one person…
And my wife and my baby who inspired the rest of my life….
and yes
NOW
2…
So yeah I am grateful
for suffering..2
@least mine…
AND MORE THAN
ANYTHING
LOVE
Experienced as in my childhood…
THAT
I
CAN GIVE
NOW THAT DID
NOT EXIST BEFORE…
DURING THOSE 60+ MONTHS
OF LIVING DEATH…
AND I HAVE
TO THANK
MY
MAGICK
FRIEND
WHITE
PEARL
FOR BRINGING
TH@ BACK TO ME THROUGH HER
GREAT FAITH IN WHAT SHE CALLS ALLAH OR
WHAT I
CALL
GOD..
OR THE ONE
THAT IS
ALL…
AND I’M SURE SHE
BRINGS IT TO MANY OTHERS..
ON HER
ANGEL
MAGICK
LOVEBLOG..2as her spirit..human..and ALLAH..
IS ALL and ONE to me…
for
3
2
http://foodpeopleloveandstuff.wordpress.com
1
And YES ALL the other INTERNET
FRIENDS!
Th@hell..pedme too…
Little did I know..
Th@
In effect..
ALL th@
work I
did
on my backyard would..
essentially.. eventually turn out to be..
A stadium sized grassy dance floor.. suitable
for
Nudists.. in privacy.. to dance and sing to the sun.. moon and stars…
Even
iF..
‘IT’ iS..anything else…
Hard to dismiss..the power of musicK..dance and
the positive effect
of
Creation Activity…
On
ALL
M@ters…
knownKnow to
shEWoMANKInd…
as ..WE.. i think.. should be
to each and all others..even a
grain
of
sand…
IF one WILLs
with
ONE will..please…
So to finish? this post a few
more pictures of inspiration of the
aLIVE!
me
if one wills..
and
amazing how when one moves into
fiery focussing positive mind..what results…
as almost
miracles
in
the most mundane of life experiences…
As long as one
does
not
forget to play..
as director.. writer.. and actor..
of there
own
play…
noT
a vicarious one in a
nother
play…
So play on and live STRONg!
And when the Sun ever shows you IT IS a heart!
Believe IT..
if one wills…
Why NOT?
There is nothing to lose but a
soul..
SUN
aND
NO
I
AM
nOT a body builder..
I
am
anhEartist…
or..
a soul
builder…
YEA..H
LOVE IS WHERE IT IS@
@IS GOD
BY THE WAY….
IN CASE YOU ARE WONDERING
Y
I
AM
SO
ATTACHED TO TH@
SYMBOL…
@IS A POWERFUL
‘THING’
WELL
HELL
IT
CAN EVEN DISCONTINUE OR EVEN REVERSE THE AGING PROCESS…
WELL..MY WIFE AND I @53 SHE @43 DO NOT WEAR ANY MAKEUP..
SO..
HOW
ELSE WOULD
one EXPLAIN
THIS?
LOVE IS THE WAY..
MY FRIENDS….
ANY OTHER WAY…
SCIENTIFICALLY SPEAKING..
IS METAPHORICALLY HELL……
OR HATE..
SMILES @love….
ONLY TO BE
HEL..L..D
EVILIVED
EVILIVE
i
AM
LOVE
as ONE
LIGHT
WHERE ONE OTHER
CHOOSES
TO
BE
IS
one
other choice.
PERIOD
./
And most of ALL..
I guess..
I have great gratitude
for experiencing life as
an
Angel..and
YEs..
a Devil2
And a JOKER too…
but yet..
Dead in affect.. in emotions..
AND EFFECT!
three years ago..before entering the E-World
for some escape of pain on 11262010
13
4
AS Another LUCKy day!
And the hope of my baby picture…
AS spirit ONE aGAIN
posted
on
WRONG PLANET
ON
12252010
13
4
In hopes of making
one
more post..
that NOW is closing IN on
7
million words….
through
writing
on the Wrong Planet Website..and
Many others
NOW
as
1
So here are two songs..I guess.. that metaphorically describe
the progression
of
my
life!
AND SOUL
as
just
another synchronicity..
I
GUESS…
And back and aLIVE
aGAIN
On
Exactly 7222013
17
8
as
a 6 pointed STAR
or
magicK infinity 1
11
2
I AM
aLIVE
8
1
KATiE MiA FredericK!iI 
Referenced videos and comments here from the WRong Planet website at this link:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5688013.html#5688013
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Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:06 am Post subject:
MCalavera wrote:
As far as I know, this is all just rambling. It’s like someone “speaking in tongues” but thinks he’s speaking an actual comprehensible language when it’s just gibberish.
Aghogday wrote:
Well..MClavera..even though you indicate you are autistic and ‘IT stands to reason’ you would have some difficulties with the metaphors I am using here in my last post..most of It is 5th or 6th grade common sense or that which most three year olds could comprehend in their own way and express IT…
So.. I can’t help but to think that at this point you are being just a little disingenuous in your response here….
Obviously you are not going to do understand the cryptic comments I make unless you have the keys to unlock the riddles I provide…
But basic tenants on love and life..is not brain science..my friend…It’s just what everyday common sense folks have been analyzing and concluding from the simple things in life..and expressing in the simplest words of all..Love and Light..yet analyzing the most complex human emotion of ALL…LOVE…and LIGHT..you see IT IS the most complex notion of ALL IF ones does not truly experience IT @ALL in LIFE…
So ALL i can say IS best wishes to you friend..
And seriously immature personal attacks are at the lowest level of debate..and do not impress me one way or the other…
If that is not the case here..I can only truly feel sorry for your limited ability to understand these basic tenants of life…
And pray… or if you want to call IT optimism and hope..that I may express..that I hope you will understand one day..only for you own benefit..as IT IS of no personal consequence to me other than a prayer of hope and faith for you…in ‘simple’ love and light…
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Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:27 am Post subject:
DentArthurDent wrote:
octobertiger wrote:
I argue that life is experienced through the ‘subconscious’, which pretty much illogical, and naturally difficult to ‘prove’ things. As some say, 90-95% of life is experienced through this zone; the logical part of the mind pretends that it’s in control and it knows the whole show.
Surely you believe you are a collection of amino acids, DNA, and merely that, otherwise why would you place any value in being here at all? I’m just interested in how you see yourself.
This is why empirical data is so important, we all experience things differently. Just ask a crash investigator how reliable eyewitness accounts are.
I presume you have seen this but in case you have not.
Regarding proof does not equal knowledge, I am not sure what you are getting at. If you mean that proof is not required for knowledge I think I can accept that but I will not accept knowledge based on such a premise as particularly reliable. And will (i think) without exception accept knowledge based upon evidence over accepted knowledge that is purely subjective in its premise.
How do I see myself, not sure, never really thought about it in that sense. I suppose I am a life form on a planet which has many other forms of life with a varying degree of similarity. I see a naturalistic cause for my existence and I believe that ALL the processes which work within our form will one day be understood. I see no need to ascribe any part of my Being to a non naturalistic force. What will be regarded as naturalistic will undoubtedly change over time. You only need to look at how the laws of physics seem to change in the absence of heat, not to mention the seemingly bizarre nature of quantum physics. These revelations only add to our understanding of the natural world and as I said in time we will have a COMPLETE understanding of it.
This is why I have the quote from Douglas Adams. I much prefer it when people say I do not know and then go looking for the answer, rather than ascribe a made up cause that seems to fit their belief.
Aghogday Wrote:
This is a very interesting comment you make here as you express God with terms like Science but the basic elements of understanding in what I might call as God is basically same..
Except for one thing..
While many creationist like leaning Churches do express the ‘idea’ that all the mysteries of life will be explained one day..that is not too much different than suggesting the world is 6000 years old…
That is simply a deduction based on a limited view of life..
Yet humans are so limited in what ‘may’ be potentially perceived as the ‘objective’ reality of what IS in this Universe..and beyond..the leap of blind faith and hope you make here that Science will provide an ultimate tool to completely understand ALL things is faith not only in Science at the same level of ‘blind’ faith and hope in GOD that creationists have..Your Science is much Greater per blind faith than the potential of my limited place as a speck of dust in relative size and potential to have comprehensive of knowledge of THE ALL THAT IS..OR GOD OR WHATEVER THE F*** YOU WANT TO CALL IT..cause your blind faith in science is much stronger than my vision of God…
So you have a very interesting religion my friend.. And a GOD called Science…
It’s all just Semantics..After all is said and done..you are a creationist in effect if you think man can understand IT all..
In other words you perceive life like a flea that thinks that one day IT will bark if IT drinks enough DOG BLOOD..for nourishment..and study…
Humans are just a parasite my friend..or a big virus in total effect on this planet..so far…
There is no doubt at all..about this..as viewed from middle distance in space moving into the atmosphere of earth…
If anything…humans are the most unintelligent species that ever existed…
As they are stupid enough to destroy their subsistence..as whole of species and many other species in ecological disharmony per advance of culture and collective…
intelligence in ultimate stupidity..or death…in killing their only means of subsistence as whole..what can be described as mother earth…
So in other words humans… the species.. already indicate clearly in the documented scientific record as IS..that they don’t know sh**….
When IT comes to the only thing that counts..Ultimate survival of the species…and life in general…
And that is a scientific fact my friend..that the creationists and people who think that science can completely understand IT all completely miss…
Einstein had enough common sense to understand thIS IS bullshit…
And so does Stephen Hawkin..
Are you really smarter than those dudes…
Me not thinks so…
But carry on ..the opinion is amusing…
And oh by the way..that evidence you were looking for…
I know 9000 pictures and approaching 7 million words IS a little too much to ask someone to analyze to find the evidence…
So as promised I provided an iphone picture of me curling 210 Lbs..at 53 years old and even a picture of the weakest looking 13 year old kid you could probably imagine that was me too…
While humans may never understand everything…believing you can do anything…will take you places you might not imagine you can go…
‘Who knows’.. perhaps if you could believe strongly enough without expectation or limitation…you might be able to save yOUR species..or ‘tribe’..the ultimate accomplishment for any social animal in this life…
But anyway.. here is the link…
Dream high and achieve great…
That’s what’s really kool..dude….JUSt DO It..like Nike says…
Talking about IT with no results..
Will not get
one…
Very far in life…
Like Temple Grandin advises…
Another reALLy wise.. older Autistic person…
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Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:11 am Post subject:
AspieOtaku wrote:
(video presented at wrongplanet link for these comments)
Aghogday Wrote:
Modern Christianity has very little resemblance to real christianity as taught by the Historical Jesus..
So yeah many christians are ignorant about GoD…
God is not a black and white thinker…
And man has no control over God…
In other Words…
God simply IS..
And yeah there are mysterious forces in this life that provide great healing power…
But we don’t get to understand how ALL of this works..
Cause again…
All man is..is an insignificant flea sucking a little blood off of God…
Having dreams..
That one day..the flea will be greater than a flea..
so with that said..
Here is a little video about the real GOD…
DOG…
I AM DOG..
Hell yeah! dogs know more about GOD than man..
IN general..especially wolves…
As the wild ones..
Have not yet been brain washed..
IN domesticated ways…
(video I AM a dog)
I AM A Wolf..think about that one for a little while…
If one wills..
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Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:38 am Post subject:
AspieOtaku wrote:
(video in included in linked Wrong Planet thread)
Aghogday Wrote:
Well no sh**..myth is life my friend…
Science is even smart enough to understand this…
As we create our reality as illusion as life goes on simply based on our approximation in perception of the true reality that IS..based on our passed approximations in the perception of reality as we perceive It…as IS…
No Human ever sees the true reality and lives to talk about it..as the true reality is death..Literally speaking…
But…
Metaphorically speaking our experience as humans is ALL MYTH..
Th@IS ALL IT IS..
IS
Illusion..as ALL…
IS IT!
So…
Th@is a pretty Kool video…
But here IS the thing..
What do you think….
All these different cultures had the internet and transferred this information precisely like this to keep the myth going…
No that’s not possible if you WiLL see..
As they did noT have the internet then…
So there is a much higher power at work…
That keeps all these archetypes of supraorganism mind the same…
So yeah..while the overall story of Horus and Jesus is the same myth…
In effect you just provided proof for the GOD that IS…
As there is no other explanation as to how this story could have stayed intact…
For this many thousands of years…
Without broadband..worldwide avenues of Information Technology…
Other than this thing I describe as IT
Or GOD or whatever…
So thanks for supporting my opinion…
Friend..
As this little video provides perhaps more proof of the gOD that IS IT..
Than any thing else replicated in this thread…
So in other words…IT’s really Kool…
As IT IS
Just another stepping stone…
To enlightenment…
ON a much broader scale…
If one wills….
To ‘view’ the gOD th@IS…
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:08 am Post subject:
MCalavera wrote:
Quantum physics is now considered real because we can sense and infer it is real through scientific means. In fact, it was considered through scientific means.
Any new that we may discover later on is very likely to be discovered by science as well, but until that happens, you cannot simply assert something for which there is no evidence to back it up.
Aghogday:
Of course you can…that is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard..ever heard of free speech?’
There are no rules like that..in the US.. are you from the US?
If you live in a Muslim country that is not so ridiculous though….
Or the other countries that do not have freedom of speech or much higher levels of restriction on all freedoms of expression…
The only way to understand some things is to experience them…
You see I have experienced God..so I can assert what I experience..and perhaps if you haven’t experienced GOD you can assert the same too..as you live in the US…
But on the other hand if you haven’t experienced GOD you miss out on all the benefit…
So that would not be much of a beneficial untruth if you will..
But that’s the thing..experiencing GOD IS simply experiencing BLISS with the real potential of experiencing this bliss almost continuously every second, minute..hour…day..through every year…and so on through NOW as ALWAYS….
That’s all Jesus was saying..hey folks I figured out the secret to ALWAYS EXPERIENCING BLISS..THIS IS REALLY KOOL sh** YOU OUGHT TO TRY SOME OF IT….
WELL..some other folks figured out that if they could add in the myth that he was literally resurrected from the dead..that would be a sure hook to keep people coming to church and offering big bucks for the big show…if you will…in church..the big lie the story or WHATEVER….
But anyway Jesus took his secret to the grave…in effect..as the TRUE MESSAGE FOR MOST has been lost in these lies for centuries…
Anyway dude..that’s all I’m saying I experience bliss almost all the time..now…
And I got a really good reference point per my history of health problems how the real human hell feels too..almost all the time in the past…
So if you don’t want some of that sh**…that’s up to you dude…
But guess…what.. I figured this sh** out…
And have already taken more than a few people there in real life..with not much problem…
So yeah dude..I am a MAGICK MAN NOW…
AND BY the way this is not just directed at you in a personal way…
It is a way of relating it to the listening audience much further than you as an individual…
My little hobby is expressing the GOD that really IS…
In as many ways as possible..
As there are many other people who have helped me that I stand on their shoulders..
That I can only payback by paying that LOVE that IS GOD and Personal BLISS FORWARD…
So yeah..get the gibberish yet?
If not that OK as one man’s gibberish is another man’s savior in effect….
Not the person…the words of inspiration…
Is all ..as inspiration can actually save a person’s life…
There is no doubt about that..
AT ALL…as THAT connection can ultimately be ONE…
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Algorithms are pretty amazing.. particularly the one’s designed by Google like Youtube…
I can wake up every morning and be inspired to even greater heights by math and algorithms that too reflects the GOD that IS and the human mind to suggest what I ‘need’…
So the mysteries of GOD are even in an Algorithm and math2…
Another poem for my blog……..
AND yeah..NBC..thank you2..as dance in all IT’s forms is a way to this thing called GOD the ONE..the aLLah or Whatever….
Along with all other musicK..movement of TAI CHI related energy styles..movement2 in general..and even a poem to take one there3………..
Oh yeah! and some churches too..anywhere where absence of hatred..personal judgement and a path toward light and love can be found 2..and yeah..that gratitude for the ALL OF the smallest and all the greatest of ALL ThIngs ..the ONE th@IS ALL IF one WILLs with ONE wiLl AS ALL FORONENOWFOREVERMOrENOW!
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MCalavera wrote:
None of you who say that Jesus and Horus overall story are same myths have read Egyptian mythology.
Aghogday Wrote:
Dude..did you watch the video..
I was commenting on the video..not what i read of Egyptian Mythology..
If it’s not true..it just does not support my opinion…And I did not provide that video…
But there is absolutely no doubt in my mind..which is precisely a scientific mind..that GOD exists…
The proof I personally have is irrefutable…seriously…
But you got your mind made up…
If I could make your car levitate…
You’d figure out a way to pooh..poooh IT..at least I’m thinking you would..
But again I’m speaking mostly to the larger listening audience..
HERE…
You are kind of in the back ground here actually so no offense please..intended..
I’m just using your comments as inspiration..if you will..
To make the points i’m making in a lyrical melodic way..if you can..could… or will….
AS THIS IS THE type of language..
That can last a long time as memory…
AS the sub-concious mind feeds of
emotion inspired language..
Whether IT is analytically
understood or
NOT…
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The video is based on a lot of ignorance. That’s all.
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MCalavera wrote:
The video is based on a lot of ignorance. That’s all.
Aghogday Wrote:
Well…thank you for clarifying that MCalavera…I’m not sure exactly in what way you mean..but I have briefly come across these analogies before and remember them being somewhat debunked if I remember correctly…
It would be quite a coincidence though if they were true..
And certainly worth exploring in the historical text to see what could or could not be evidenced as far as this goes..
But again..my proof of God is in endless bliss..that old thing called Nirvana in EAstern philosophy and certainly not easily obtained.. as that old saying that ‘GOD’ spits out folks that are lukewarm is seriously true as one cannot maintain bliss without an extreme focus on many arts that lead up to that bliss..or what one might call as ONENESS with the ONE..or GOD or whatever…
Including TAI CHI like movements..dance..singing..music in general…meditation..yoga…and everything the masters of the past and present have established and practiced to obtain…GODHEAD..if you will…
This is no Illusion at all..IT’s just that the cultural illusions prevent most human beings from freeing themselves from personal judgement against others..all hate..unwarranted fear…free expression of emotions..and freedom to practice a path to enlightenment and bliss in the eternal NOW….
Part of my journey is simple but at the same time very complex with courageous acts of defying fear..and negative emotions..as well as oneness with the physical body..including walking very fast in reverse in super-walmart..whirling and twirling like a 6FT 222LB ballerina..where no store attendant would dare to approach as this defies their pre-conceived notions of reality…
In other words they are left speechless..as I do not look like I would ever do such a thing..
The little children laugh and follow my lead..enjoying themselves at Super-Walmart a little more than usual to the dismay of some of their parents…
So yeah..that thing that the historical Jesus said about coming into the kingdom of ‘heaven’ NOW..by entering it like a little child and being reborn..is absolutely true for the path I take to achieve this eternal bliss in NOW…
And no.. bliss is not mania..It is a peaceful feeling of strength and power beyond all imagination..if one has not experienced IT..
Now here is the thing.. most ‘religious’ leaning people observe GOD outside of themselves..this could be nothing further from the TRUTH..
GOD is the higher power within each human being that can in effect make any human being..superman..
That’s ALL Jesus and the other so called prophets were..is Supermen..nothing that unusual..but certainly an admirable state of being to obtain..this thing described as ONENESS,..GOD..CHRIST..ALLAH..or WHATEVER WILL…
THERE IS NO DOUBT THIS GOD EXISTS…
NOW THAT MAGICK GUY IN THE SKY OUTSIDE OF ANYONE..SIMPLY BULLSHIT…
TO BE CLEAR THIS IS ALL MY OPINON AND i DO NOT EXPECT ANYONE TO APPROVE OF IT..AGREE..OR EVEN WANT TO READ IT…
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:51 pm Post subject:
aghogday wrote:
So you have a very interesting religion my friend.. And a GOD called Science…
DentArthurDent Wrote:
Pure and utter crap.
Human knowledge and ideas tested against nature to check their accuracy and discarded if no validating evidence is found is not a bloody religion, its rational, logical and has given us the modern world of medicine (oh yes, sorry I forgot, you claim to have been cured by god. I did try to find your medical records in the “million words” they must be in code because i could not find them), education, electricity, agriculture, transportation, clean drinking water, the internet you all love to use, the list of human advances since the implementation of the scientific method is incredible.
Perhaps all you who fight against verifiable human discoveries should stop using them and see just how long you last. I and many others have removed the idiocy of religion from our lives and guess what, we have no discernible disadvantage.
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octobertiger wrote:
What you say about quantum physics and the crash investigators backs up my point.
how so quantum mechanics is a scientific discovery, and the relibality of eyewitness accounts is confirmed by the use of scientific investigation.
octobertiger wrote:
Empirical evidence – it has become like an infallible religion to many. It is very fallible. It is bound by our senses, and our technology based on the senses. Just because it might be ‘the best that we have got’ doesn’t mean that it is brilliant.
DentArthurDent Wrote:
Firstly it is not a religion, religion is a belief/faith system with absolutely no evidence to support the belief. The scientific method does not require absolute proof to move an idea forward, what it does need however is some sort of supporting evidence and most important of all if the ideas and hypothesis are tested against nature and found to be incorrect then that is the end of the matter, the idea was incorrect. As I said above this is not religious dogma its rational, logical and has been proven to be effective by giving us the modern era.
octobertiger wrote:
Science will never have the ‘answers’ as it is bound by its own constraining models. It might discover some of the ‘information’ – but it will bend it to suit its own whims and models. Unless science changes what it is, it will always misinterpret. And it must be seen to be getting somewhere – if it does not, it will lose credibility.
DentArthurDent Wrote:
I posted this somewhere before but what the heck I like it as it sums up the scientific method, and shows that in general the scientific community are not guilty of what you are inferring above.
“scientist or not, each of us has intuition and we all infer things about the world from our everyday experiences, If we subject our observations to the cold and precise light of the scientific method, however, we often discover that nature confounds our intuition. …….. Difficult as it may sometimes seem, science at its heart is not a complicated discipline. One might venture to say that is is an attempt to remove our innate prejudices in order to observe the world as objectively as possible. It may be more of less successful in that goal but few can doubt its success in teaching us how the universe “works”. The really difficult thing is to learn not to trust what we might like to think of as common sense. By teaching us to accept nature for what it is, and not for what our prejudice may suggest it should be , the scientific method has delivered the modern technological world. In short it works” Prof Brian Cox (bold highlight added)
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DentArthurDent wrote:
The really difficult thing is to learn not to trust what we might like to think of as common sense. By teaching us to accept nature for what it is, and not for what our prejudice may suggest it should be , the scientific method has delivered the modern technological world. In short it …
October Tiger Wrote:
Completely agree with that.
The rest – I’m sorry, but the more I read it, science has become unquestionable because you dare not question your own senses – or technology, created from our senses.
The modern world should not be held up to be the ultimate example. Who knows what improvements we could have made by understanding psychology, philosophy more, and modifying the rigidity of scientific thinking.
Quantum physics has been around a lot longer before science became credible. Properly understood, quantum physics will illustrate that all is one, and thus everything is a dream…when that day comes, I’m sure science will put a ‘better’ spin on it.
I think that if Marx was alive today, he would conclude that science was the new opiate of the masses. Well, either that or tv.
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:27 pm Post subject:
We have come a long way in understanding human psychology, trouble is people like you seem not to like the reality. I find it interesting that you do not seem to recognise the advent of the scientific method as the founder of the modern age. In fact had the world not been so tied up in superstition and subjective nonsense, the scientific discoveries coming from the”middle east” almost 2000 years ago have brought humanity to the present level of knowledge many centuries earlier.
I think many people blame the scientific method and the scientific community, for the failings of the economic system which supports it. For example in the area of medicine research is funded where there is the a good chance of profit from the outcome. This means that an area which may have potential but little chance of a profitable return will receive no funding and therefore little to no research.
With regard to quantum mechanics, yes this may well demonstrate that everything in the universe is connected. That only strengthens the naturalistic case and pretty much kills off any evidence for the supernatural.
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It’s science itself that says our senses can’t be trusted individually. Psychology is part of science (well, not all aspects of it, but most findings of psychology today have been scientifically derived).
Also, nobody is saying we aren’t all connected in essence to each other and the universe. Just that it’s not necessarily some supernatural divine entity that is the connection.
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DentArthurDent wrote:
aghogday wrote:
So you have a very interesting religion my friend.. And a GOD called Science…
DentArthurDent Wrote:
Pure and utter crap.
Human knowledge and ideas tested against nature to check their accuracy and discarded if no validating evidence is found is not a bloody religion, its rational, logical and has given us the modern world of medicine (oh yes, sorry I forgot, you claim to have been cured by god. I did try to find your medical records in the “million words” they must be in code because i could not find them), education, electricity, agriculture, transportation, clean drinking water, the internet you all love to use, the list of human advances since the implementation of the scientific method is incredible.
Perhaps all you who fight against verifiable human discoveries should stop using them and see just how long you last. I and many others have removed the idiocy of religion from our lives and guess what, we have no discernible disadvantage.
Aghogday Wrote:
Hey dude..who the ‘hell’ do you think you are talking to..
I actually worked as a scientist…in college as a research associate..
I graduated 11 out of a class of 380 and have degrees in health science, anthropology.. and social sciences interdisciplinary AS A TRIPLE major all photographed many times in my blog..and this was only a speck of dust of the knowledge AND SKILLS of this complete life that I have gained in 53 years….
I understand science better than you likely ever will..
Here’s the thing..
There is more to science than meets the eye…
When you believe that science will know it all my friend..that is faith…and faith is religion…like IT Or NOT..
So…if you have faith that science will find all the answers…in fact you have religion…
Study anthropology a little while..and you MAY understand the science of being human…
my friend.
PERIOD…
To understand EVEN A TINY APPROXIMATION OF IT all…
Means to move away from specialization in skills and knowLEdge…
WHO THE HELL HAS THE TIME FOR THAT…
I DO…
I DON’T WORK….
THAT
S
ALL ID O..
SO MOVE AHEAD IF YOU WILL..
AND LIVE
THAT’S
ALL THERE IS TO LIFE..
MY FRIEND…
AND YES IN EFFECT THAT
IS GOD2….
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DentArthurDent wrote:
We have come a long way in understanding human psychology, trouble is people like you seem not to like the reality. I find it interesting that you do not seem to recognise the advent of the scientific method as the founder of the modern age. In fact had the world not been so tied up in superstition and subjective nonsense, the scientific discoveries coming from the”middle east” almost 2000 years ago have brought humanity to the present level of knowledge many centuries earlier.
I think many people blame the scientific method and the scientific community, for the failings of the economic system which supports it. For example in the area of medicine research is funded where there is the a good chance of profit from the outcome. This means that an area which may have potential but little chance of a profitable return will receive no funding and therefore little to no research.
With regard to quantum mechanics, yes this may well demonstrate that everything in the universe is connected. That only strengthens the naturalistic case and pretty much kills off any evidence for the supernatural.
Aghogday Wrote:
Dont’ you get IT..that means evidence for GOD..
Why the f*** would anyone believe that..that Which is GOD
IS ANYTHING BUT NATURAL….
NO BODY IN THIS DISCUSSION NOW IS DISAGREEING THAT GOD IS ANYTHING BUT NATURAL…
WE ARE NOT SAYING ANYTHING BUT GOD IS THE CONNECTEDNESS OF ALL..
BUT..
HERE’S THE THING..
IF YOU DO NOT FULLY EXPERIENCE THAT CONNECTEDNESS YOU DO NOT FULLY EXPERIENCE GOD…
SO IF YOU FEEL NONE OF THIS CONNECTEDNESS THERE IS NO GOD FOR YOU…
NOW I HAVE NO IDEA WHO YOU ARE BUT WHAT YOU FEEL..
BUT MY ‘SPIDER SENSES’ IF YOU WILL…
TELL ME YOU ARE ALMOST DEAD IN EFFECT..
AS FAR AS FEELING THIS CONNECTEDNESS THAT IS GOD…
AND HOW TO HELP YOU
I CAN ONLY TRY..
THAT IS ALL…
IT IS IS LOVE MY FRIEND…
AND NO NOT THATHATSTUFF IN PORNOGRAPHY….
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OK…
time for full disclosure here ‘writenow’…i
If one will hear1!
I am trying to get people to more fully open their minds…
And no that is not just metaphor…
Modern Science now is just beginning to understand through research that there are tWO pathways in the brain…
ONe which is the pathway to human relationships with the objects in one’s environment…or what one might describe as the logic..object relationships in life..
And another pathway to human relationships with other humans in social cognition…which one might describe as the empathy pathway to social relationships with others…
When one pathway is used to the exclusion of the other pathway..an atrophy can occur..as suggested in modern research..as to this pathway that either is ‘logic’ or ’empathy’…
So…to MORE fully experience this life or what can be described overall as GOD..one must exercise both the pathways of emotion/empathy and logic/systemizing at an equal rate of ‘exercise’…
So to do this…what to do…
I developed my own religion..if one wills..
I practice making this pathway in my brain stronger..by singing in Church..practicing dance and TAI CHI movements in my backyard completely naked to feel all of nature on my body…
I also go up to complete strangers in stores and talk about whatever…
I walk in reverse sometimes very fast in super walmart..and even whirl and twirl like a ballerina…But in doing so in exercising all of my muscles I am incredibly strong now..like superman in actual effect of physical abilities..above and beyond most people who in effect only use half of their body to resist gravity in day to day life…
As a result I am fearless and full of love too..as all of this makes an excellent conversation piece of one wills where I can let that little ‘god light’ of mine shining more fully in the real world…
I f***ing hate religion for the most part..OK..because most religion is more in ultimate effect about hate instead of real love and lack of personal judgement against others…
But what I do like is living and love..that IS ALL and YES that is what I call GOD..in total affect and effect..if one wills….
So I invite you to read my blogs..and no I am not in this for any money..
I am a frigging financial genius too..
So I AM financially independent..2….
So here is the latest one…and if you think you got it difficult or challenging in your life…don’t EVEN THINK about my health problems that I AM mostly over..just look at my 13 year old Autistic picture..and try to figure out how I got from there to here..@53..
Yeah… that’s proof enough of some kind of higher power in this life that most people do not tap into ALL BY ITSELF! PERIOD.
YOU SEE I GOTTA SECRET AND IT IS THE POWER OF THIS THING I CALL GOD…
IT IS ALL IN ME…AND NOT SOME MAGICK MAN IN THE SKY….
AND IT IS YOURS TOO…
ALLYOU HAVE TO DO IS SAY YES TO YOU…NO ONE ELSE CAN BRING THIS HIGHER POWER TO YOU EXCEPT FOR YOU..AS IF IT IS TO BE IT IS ALL UP TO YOU….
NOW!
This is the last revision of the post..with everything I can think of to express this higher POwer that IS..in my life..as that’s all any of US now is..IS..IS our life….fully…
ButYEs! we do all have the power to connect to each other when we make love as the light of being us always..
So be the light…if ONE can…or if one willS..
AS everyone plays a role!
In the total LOVE THAT IS GOD!
So move on and rolL..
Yeah! poetry is my religion2….
And yeah again..this is just my opinion…
This discussion forum isn’t all about how everyone else finds GOD or doesn’t find GOD..
It can also be how some of us actually
LIVE GOD..as a LIGHT and LOVE that IS GOD!!
Oh and i almost forgot the link..
HEREHEArITiS:
Enjoy if one wills or not.
IF NOth@is certainly OK2or even 3 if one wills…
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GREAtitude… i like… smiles… and loving without wearing make up…metaphorically spoken is a good thing as well… smiles
Thanks Claudia.. I think gratitude is great too..even splendid as I see IT now… And yes! IT is always positive just be me or you or we as far as I ‘seyes’!i T..and smiles to you2!
you have a great story of overcoming man…you have been through much and yet you still go on…regaining that sight…and now sharing it with the rest of us…i hear you man…i like your attitude…smiles.
Thank you very much for the kind words..oVercoming is noW what I see as the actual normal in life..rather than an oddity…
That about sums it up, I think.
Yes..I think the answers are largely lost..when so much of the rest of the animal kingdom has got IT correct for survival! Just simply by living what IS…
Hang in there. Nice to meet you at dVerse.
Thanks so much Mary..I am doing better than ever now…NOW is all that matters..the historical challenges no longer exist….in NOW for me…smiles:)!
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aghogday wrote:
Dont’ you get IT..that means evidence for GOD..
Why the f*** would anyone believe that..that Which is GOD
IS ANYTHING BUT NATURAL
Dent Arthur Dent wrote:
So why then do you insist on calling nature, god. God in most peoples mind is Above nature, it is separate from nature. Nature is just what it is, there is no sentient guiding force, it is an interdependent process. Why confuse the issue.
And with regards to your “superhuman” status and “ballerina” like agility I have watched the “superhuman” briskly walking through Walmart, and then stop, panting like a pack a day smoker. You claim to have proof of your medical miracle any chance of providing it.
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DentArthurDent wrote:
aghogday wrote:
Dont’ you get IT..that means evidence for GOD..
Why the f*** would anyone believe that..that Which is GOD
IS ANYTHING BUT NATURL
Dent Arthur Dent Wrote:
So why then do you insist on calling nature, god. God in most peoples mind is Above nature, it is separate from nature. Nature is just what it is, there is no sentient guiding force, it is an interdependent process. Why confuse the issue.
And with regards to your “superhuman” status and “ballerina” like agility I have watched the “superhuman” briskly walking through Walmart, and then stop, panting like a pack a day smoker. You claim to have proof of your medical miracle any chance of providing it.
Aghogday Wrote:
Well as clearly stated god is not above nature..in my mind..as far as I see those who think differently are not correct in their thoughts..
And thanks for watching the funny video I provided..if you looked at the details of the youtube video in the description of the video you would have seen that the panting routine and talk of beer was just a joke…
I routinely cover 7 to 8 miles in one day in several stores..with my wife…who yes..really does love to shop…
And yeah I have a nike watch that tracks it with gPS and have already recorded the 50plus miles this month and photographed it on my blog flickr feed…under my internet pen name katie mia frederick…
And yes I at 53 do lift more weights than marines at age 23 at my military base…
You can call the attendant and you will find first hand witness accounts…
Just ask them about the ex athletic director that lifts all the weights..if you do not believe the picture..
I am financially independent…
Tell me where you live and i will show you all the medical records and first hand evidence of everything I do..
I am not about to release actual medical records on a public forum..I said the information was documented on my blog..and it has been well documented on this website well before I was completely healed and better than ever before by this higher power that i call God..that is in me..not some fairy tale or myth….
But I tell you what I will do..I’ll show you a before and after picture of me when I was sick before I could even post on this website three years ago…as compared to a picture taken today…
It is my Government retiree ID card…and will have my real last name hidden as I do not use my real last name on the internet…
My first name is Frederick and middle name is Arthur…
The two pictures will be on my flickr feed no later than tomorrow afternoon….
And if you want to know a recent account of my extreme agility in walking in reverse..you can call the night security guard at the Cordova Mall in Pensacola and just ask him about the guy with the mustache that walks real fast in reverse…
No one forgets me…after the first time they see me do this…and most people do not believe I can do what I do..by just looking at me…
But obviously if you saw the picture of me with no shirt on in the the blog..I am as healthy as a horse.. in metaphor..
YOu don’t get arms like that..broad shoulders…visible muscles in the abdomen..and chest..just by pecking away on a keyboard..my friend..
Let’s see what your faith in science does for you..
I didn’t think so..huh?
What challenges has your faith in science allowed you to overcome in life?’
I didn’t think so..huh?
Actions and pictures speak louder than words…
Words are kool..only if they mean something in the real world…
And I can easily prove everything I do in the over 10K photos on flickr just in the last 6 weeks since I have recovered…
I am only just beginning to explore my potential…
Where is your faith in science taking you my friend,…
I didn’t think so..huh?
If am incorrect let’s see what IT does for you..what advantage IT gives you…
As my higher power has brought me every imaginable…gift in this life I could possibly imagine and so much more…
And yeah…ALL I’m saying is one day you might get some of the same gifts I have…
If you simply believe in what you think is likely impossible today..as you seem to live in a box..called science..rather than out of the box..that is TRULY life and this thing I call God..as simply being love and light..IS ALL…
And yes I believe that many of the things I do will be measured by science in the future..My god is the god of mathematics and music..and so much more..but man is only a flea in comparison to this god I know that is a dog in comparison…
And yeah..NIke is a spokes company for my GOD…
Ever hear of Aleister..Crowley he is also an extreme out of the box..and extremely intelligent individual that found a formula for GOD..
Everyone called him crazy too..and wicked and all that ‘GOoD’ stuff..but he is actually one of the most influential person’s of the 20th century…simply by sharing the insights about this gOD I am talking about with others…
Influencing people like the Beatles and STing…the real prophets of the 20th century and beyond….
When you live the life of retired leisure like I do..there is plenty of time to explore these alternative sources of knowledge..of things you will never learn in school my friend…
I cannot possibly fault you for a lack of knowledge in these areas…as there is no way I would have had time for this when I was in the rat race of what is required when you are part of the working world system….
I haven’t seen a financial bill I could not pay in full per credit cards or whatever in the same month ..for over a decade now…and that was when I was only 43…how many people do you think have even accomplished that…and saved several hundred thousand dollars..just by working for the government…particularly with the first close to 2 decades working at a government Bowling Center…
Not many..my friend..if any….
And no I am not going to release my financial records on a public forum but I will be more than happy to do it with anyone in person..as I already routinely do that now..when asked for evidence…as I don’t mind sharing the truth….
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Even when dropping the fractured, stylised crazy speak, your posts still lack logic or even something resembling a clear narrative, aghogday. Even if I accept that you believe everything you say, you have literally provided nothing remotely resembling a cogent point for anything, let alone evidence to support your claim that you have intimate knowledge of a deity upon whom you have founded a new religion.
The entire crux of your most recent post appears to be as follows:
“I’m awesome because I’ve done some stuff and that stuff means that I can run roughshod all over any conflicting view because my belief in my personal god is more relevant than anything anyone else has to say.” You even refer to yourself as a “financial genius”, seemingly citing this as a reason that your opinions are infallible, or at the very least carry have more authority than DentArthurDent whom you quoted.
Rather than providing us with valid reasons to support your views, your chosen approach has been to self-promote, while both mocking and dismissing DentArthurDent:
aghogday wrote:
And if you want to know a recent account of my extreme agility in walking in reverse..you can call the night security guard at the Cordova Mall in Pensacola and just ask him about the guy with the mustache that walks real fast in reverse…
No one forgets me…after the first time they see me do this…and most people do not believe I can do what I do..by just looking at me…
But obviously if you saw the picture of me with no shirt on in the the blog..I am as healthy as a horse.. in metaphor..
YOu don’t get arms like that..broad shoulders…visible muscles in the abdomen..and chest..just by pecking away on a keyboard..my friend..
adifferent name wrote”
“I’m awesome, and you can ask some guy about how awesome I am and you can ask other people who will tell you how awesome I am and how I’m an amazing physical specimen and stuff but you’re just a puny geek who does nothing but ‘peck’ on a keyboard.”
Inevitably then, I return to my stance of ignoring your posts. I find neither nonsensical rambling nor the self-aggrandising pomp to be worthy of my attention.
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:58 am Post subject:
adifferentname wrote:
Even when dropping the fractured, stylised crazy speak, your posts still lack logic or even something resembling a clear narrative, aghogday. Even if I accept that you believe everything you say, you have literally provided nothing remotely resembling a cogent point for anything, let alone evidence to support your claim that you have intimate knowledge of a deity upon whom you have founded a new religion.
The entire crux of your most recent post appears to be as follows:
“I’m awesome because I’ve done some stuff and that stuff means that I can run roughshod all over any conflicting view because my belief in my personal god is more relevant than anything anyone else has to say.” You even refer to yourself as a “financial genius”, seemingly citing this as a reason that your opinions are infallible, or at the very least carry have more authority than DentArthurDent whom you quoted.
Rather than providing us with valid reasons to support your views, your chosen approach has been to self-promote, while both mocking and dismissing DentArthurDent:
aghogday wrote:
And if you want to know a recent account of my extreme agility in walking in reverse..you can call the night security guard at the Cordova Mall in Pensacola and just ask him about the guy with the mustache that walks real fast in reverse…
No one forgets me…after the first time they see me do this…and most people do not believe I can do what I do..by just looking at me…
But obviously if you saw the picture of me with no shirt on in the the blog..I am as healthy as a horse.. in metaphor..
YOu don’t get arms like that..broad shoulders…visible muscles in the abdomen..and chest..just by pecking away on a keyboard..my friend..
adifferentname wrote:
“I’m awesome, and you can ask some guy about how awesome I am and you can ask other people who will tell you how awesome I am and how I’m an amazing physical specimen and stuff but you’re just a puny geek who does nothing but ‘peck’ on a keyboard.”
Inevitably then, I return to my stance of ignoring your posts. I find neither nonsensical rambling nor the self-aggrandising pomp to be worthy of my attention.
aghogday wrote:
Well I suppose personal attacks make you a big man huh?
Well no that is not how IT works in the real world..
Hide behind your words my friend..that is fine…
But before you start spouting off words of incorrectness..please read my words a little more carefully…
I have clearly stated several times that these are my own opinions and not something anyone else has to read or agree with..
You are no one to me…I am speaking to the much larger reading audience here..including some people who have the condition of alexithymia..who are close to suicide who may be in the listening… audience..
For some of those people inspiration of real life incidences where people overcome obstacles is inspiration to go on for another day…
I am putting my bucks on real life stuff..dude..I don’t just do words anymore…as I am healed now and in the real world…
And as far as arthur dent arthur goes..he was asking for evidence of what I do and i was just providing potential paths to that evidence…if you don’t care about..fine..go on your merry way…if one wills…
And I am still a Geek and not puny anymore..so what.. big f***ing deal if I can pick up your ‘volkswagon’…
I can do math too…
The question here is reading comprehension i think…where in the hell did you get the idea I founded a new religion..TAI CHI…DAnce and singing has been around as long as historical text…I’m just claiming it as part of my own religious structure…and yeah..Aleister Crowley suggested the walking in reverse stuff..so I borrowed that from him too..although I did it long before I read about his suggestion…
If you are truly secure in your faith in science..you would not likely be resorting to personal attacks…
It tells me one thing and one thing only..you are likely scared I know something greater than you know…
On the other hand..I’m just sharing these new wonderful experiences that have led to what the doctors describe as a miracle that defies any expectation they had….through decades of clinical experience..and I can probably get that on ‘tape too’..on my iphone..if I just ask my doctor to comply to potentially inspire others…but I put my actions where my words are2….
I choose to call It God..you can call it bullshit..i don’t care what you decide to call IT..that is your will not mine…
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I do not impose my will on anyone else..nor do I resort to childish personal attacks…
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adifferentname I am not sure whether to salute your fortitude or scold you for wasting your time reading aghogday’s nonsense 😯 😉 I just skim through, often the relevant bits are at the beginning and the end.
adifferentname wrote:
Inevitably then, I return to my stance of ignoring your posts. I find neither nonsensical rambling nor the self-aggrandising pomp to be worthy of my attention.
Yes, this is a good sentiment and a policy that in the absence of any supporting evidence regarding his claims, I am going to implement.
One last comment aghogday, I hope that if god does reveal itself to me and raises me Lazarus like from medical oblivion I will find better things to do than walk backwards really, really, briskly in shopping malls whilst being observed by bemused security guards.
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Well..I see you respect me enough now not to address me directly..haha that’s kool..
But here is the thing…
I can write the Queen’s english better than the two of you..and have written technical articles for the government off and on for decades…
What you seem not to understand is this is a forum for philosophy..religion..and politics…
And in discussing these topics..everything..and I do mean everything goes in communication..as long as IT is not too personally offensive to individuals on this website..and follows along with the rules that Alex has set forth on this great site..that not only welcomes people with autism but also people with other neurological differences like schizophrenia..etc…
Well.. here is the reality my friend..whatever IT is you believe in…
In effect..you show disrespect to people who communicate differently than you..who are neurologically different or potentially do not have the same opportunities you have in life for education..or for whatever you do…
This is the great thing about the Christian religion practiced as the Historical Jesus actually taught…
To not reject anyone based on differences in neurology..education..and intellect is the way of the GOD i iknow…
The way some of the so called autistic people act against people who have different beliefs and different neurologies in this forum is no different than the f***ing fundamentalists that say that gay people are demon possessed…
You see..I use the same sarcasm with you as i do with the fundamentalists screaming at me on the corner yelling the ‘good news’ to me..that I am going to hell if I don’t believe their magic words about the poetic myth about Jesus metaphorically being resurrected…
You guys are not much different than these folks..you obviously have been made fun of in your life for your neurological differences so you are doing your best to be intellectual bullies to other people on this website..in your snooty ways of what you think is intellectual superiority..
Well..I notice now that you are 48 and are from Australia..you’ve got a macho culture over there..and a great deal of bullying i’m sure if you are some type of weak looking male…
If so maybe you see my pictures and it intimidates you..I don’t know but although your bullying tactics will not work with me..you obviously abuse people on this website who are different from you
If this is what faith only in science creates for an individual..it’s just sad that is all..And really no different from the restricted minds of fundamentalists literal bible thugs that live in my republican dominated area in Northwest Florida…
In other words.. RELigions that work and ways of life that work..show in the actions of how people live their lives..
So in effect whatever IT is that you believe in seems to suck in my estimation…
I base my value on human beings as they value other human beings..
And I would not even be giving you the time of day if I did not think there is any hope that you could change…
As at least for you I think their might still be hope..
I really don’t how I know that but I do…
That IS HOW GOD WORKS…
FAITH MY FRIEND IS GREATER THAN ANY SCIENCE THAT HAS EVER EXISTED..AS IT IS TRUE HUMAN SUPERPOWER…
I CAN MOVE ‘MOUNTAINS’..AND I DO…
So with that I’ll leave you with a little anthem to fight against..fundamentalist ‘minds’.. that attempt to restrict the minds of others by oppressing them into thinking they have to think in their ways..or express themselves in their ways…like you and your so called internet buddies here..hear OK…
No….
YES!
f**k! I can say what ever i want..cause this is my party..and we can’t stop..that.. IS.. the people like me that love everyone and do treat those who love others with respect…
No matter what the differences in neurology..education..or beliefs that exist in their life…
And yeah while I lose respect for people who abuse other people simply for their differences in communication..intellect..etc..I still love them the same…
That’s also how GOD works..in my estimation..and yeah spreading thISlight is really where IT’s AT..@ or whatever….Whatever IS!
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MCalavera wrote:
Bad argument about the politicians. Politicians are not experts on the environment. In fact, politicians know jack sh*t in general when it comes to all things science and policies.
As for Freud, the consensus is that a lot of what he said is speculative and likely to be false but that some of the things he said turned out to be scientifically true. So yes, there is a consensus concerning Freud just as there is a consensus concerning many things to do with the brain and anything related to psychology.
We know that if any area of the brain is damaged, there is bound to be some clear decline in a certain function. For example, then your frontal lobes get damaged, your personality changes for the worse and you become quite rude and insolent and lacking empathy for others, even if you were once a very congenial and loving person before the damage (like Phineas Gage).
Another example is when your hippocampus gets damaged, you lose the ability to maintain memories of any event that occur after the trauma (a famous case study for this was of a man named HM as I already referred previously).
Also, we have MRI scans and all sorts of other scans that detect practically the same areas of the brain being activated on the person for each task being done. And scanning the brains of people with certain disorders may reveal variations in the activation degree and even areas being activated/inactivated when compared to people lacking these disorders.
And a lot more. And all of them can be easily accounted for by simply assuming monism, that is the idea that the mind is not separate from the brain and that it is but a function of the brain. People who assume dualism despite all the evidence have difficulty explaining why the mind doesn’t seem so independent whenever an area in the brain is damaged.
Where the disagreements lie is in relatively minor details that are often simply categorical matters, like how should the forms of memory be classified and so on.
But whatever the case, it is clear there just isn’t anything supernatural or divine about our human brains. It is certainly an amazing organ, however, and there are a lot of fascinating things that have been discovered about it and that will be discovered soon.
But go ahead and dismiss these scientific findings, that’s your choice. But you are missing out.
Aghogday Wrote:
Well..guess what…
I don’t lack your learning..I’ve got the whole package and more..as I read 10 to 15 times faster than the average human being and type close to 130 words a minute..and yeah…writing upwards of 10 thousand words on somedays..with everything else I do in real life..with every once in a while making a grammatical or spelling error.. happens…
You see this other guy here is being completely honest..and I can’t help but to respect him very much as he admits his weaknesses and expresses his strengths greatly..and also expresses humility..as no I am not doing that now..as this is my party..as stated above..NOw..
But..you don’t know nearly as much as you think you do my friend..
You are a young guy…
And haven’t even lived yet..as IT takes decades of experience to really understand the complexity of this life you live..if you ever understand 1 percent of IT..
But here is the other thing..If you ever become truly enlightened like Socrates and other intellectual giants you will understand you know nothing….
That is the secret to faith my friend…
And if IT makes no sense..to YOu NOW..IT simply means you are not yet enlightened..if you even give a sh** about being enlightened..
I am a truth seeker..it is in my DNA..and yes my forefathers were intellectual giants…in the real world..But not me….
My grandfather was a famous writer..and casually dined with Einstein..as they shared socialist beliefs last century when IT could actually be detrimental in the real world to think politically different like this..which was seen as extreme at that time…
My other maternal great grandfather was a lawyer and camped with Geronimo too..and my whole family in real life’s history is published in a novel on the maternal side…as overall the adventures were that interesting on that side of the family…
So I have had a very painful and very rich life in almost everyday…everyway..
This brings wisdom my friend..the only thing that brings wisdom is a life full of rich and adverse experiences…
AND YOU see again if you hear..here.. That thESE words are being used by others..not necessarily you…
So my attention is on writing..not you in a personal way…
IN case you are wondering why I AM going on and on here..hehe!
I can easily tolerate you as @least you respect others here…
It seems so far
to me..
That’s all that really counts in my estimation ..here…
Everything else is for intellectual stimulation..
And the mean spirited things that some people say..
That simply inspire me in greater ways..
Of poetic expression..
THAT DO INSPIRE OTHERS..
AS THEY TELL
ME
SO….
WHICH IS ALL THE SUCCESS I NEED..IN LIFE..
AS I AM TRULY ALWAYS IN A STATE OF BLISS..
So what more could I ask for..
Nothing..and IT IS no problem admitting i know nothing..
That’s the secret….
my friend..
One day you may TRUly understand..
Good fortune to you…
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And, no, octobertiger, I was not implying that I am an authority. Reread my post. I am saying that the psychologists themselves are the authority when it comes to these matters.
Aghogday Wrote:
Kool..humility! I like that..and yeah I’m like that in real life..when i’m not acting in my own directed and written internet play…
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aghogday wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
And, no, octobertiger, I was not implying that I am an authority. Reread my post. I am saying that the psychologists themselves are the authority when it comes to these matters.
aghogday wrote:
Kool..humility! I like that..and yeah I’m like that in real life..when i’m not acting in my own directed and written internet play…
MCalavera…
Believe it or not, you couldn’t find anyone more humble than me in real life.
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:11 pm Post subject:
octobertiger wrote:
aghogday wrote:
My psychiatrist who is a nationally known military expert in psychology readily admits that the profession knows little about the human mind at this point.. if anything.. in relative comparison of what can happen in human experience…
Octobertigerwrote:
They are the best sort. Those professionals are fluid in thinking, and they have experience of cases where many exceptions defy arbitrary rules. I can sit and talk to them all day, they are people, and they are always keen to learn – not mask areas of little understanding.
Now, the ones who are rigid thinkers – anyone who comes to them with radiant thinking, who knows their ‘fit a person into a box’ and knows mirroring, pacing, leading, anchoring…they are cannon fodder. Their perceptions can be easily bent, because they are so tied into their model. I believe Richard Bandler talked about a 1970s lunatic asylum where the patients could so easily do that – because the patients weren’t holding rigid to a system of beliefs, whereas the so-called professionals were. In the end, one could argue who was actually sane.
aghogday wrote:
They (the psychiatrists) just try the selection of drugs available until one helps and if not..oh well they throw their hands up in the air and say see ya in 6 months..’whatever’..
octobertiger wrote:
That pretty much sums up 90% of psychiatry in practice.
You are right to laugh at me, friend, because I am laughing at myself. What good is this doing? Who is it helping? This endless procrastination before I must do what I must do.
Aghogday Wrote:
Excellent point on how easy it can be for out of the box thinkers to manipulate those who think inside of the box..
My condition of Alexithymia.. was in part a result of extreme work related stress..
And my psychiatrist is rather forward thinking on this avenue as he agrees that there is definitely a condition of imbalance with the Hypothalamus..adrenal..and pituitary glands that can result from extreme prolonged stress..that can affect the adrenal glands where they are in the on position constantly in a vicious cycle where no positive thoughts will reverse this issue..without strong medications…LIke lorazepam…my addiction gone now after 5 years…that finally turned my adrenal glands off about 4 years ago…
And yes he does agree that this causes actual brain damage..as the stress related chemicals destroy the ‘hard wired’ aspects of the brain.. if you will…
When I completely loss my emotions at the bottom of a real human pit of hell with 35 days of 1 hour of sleep for each day of the first 35 of 40 and no sleep at the end of the last 5 of 40..what I found is that free will is truly the lack of the connection of the emotions that do tie us into the connection of ALL that i describe as GOD…
The loneliness of being completely separated from this thing called GOD that i describes is beyond any depression imaginable..
The face of GOD can only truly be seen..when one completely separates themselves from this GOD through whatever method intentional or forced..and understands life without this gOD that is ALL that connects us all through the mysteries of TRUE POWErs in life that do exceed what can be described by science as IT currently exists…
But as far as words go…they are extremely important in my estimation..as no one in real life wants to be around someone who has completely lost their emotions..and is as cold as ice as any psychopath…no matter what as their moral code may remain intact…
Yeah…IF IT wasn’t for my strict moral code I could have killed anyone in cold blood..if my moral code did not change as strict and the same as my upbringing as a GOOD catholic boy…
People really underestimate the value of religion in this way..My Monsignor Priest..who is an old tennis buddy of mine..pastors the real historical Jesus teachings that tells people not to reject anyone…
In effect what he is doing..by doing this every Sunday..with new and upcoming potential psychopaths in the audience is helping to make the difference between the villain psychopath who may be a serial killer or the combat soldier or law enforcement officer psychopath who may be the hero in life…
I see my efforts here as the same..with or without any collar as my excommunicated Catholic Priest Grandfather did when he left the church before IT made this change for the better in modern times..where no one is rejected….
I always wear a white T-shirt under the pop culture t-shirts I wear on my blog and flickr feed..that is symbolic for me..per wearing the collar..and yes everything is sacred to me knowNow..even a number, letter, blade of grass..or a grain of sand..
I walk in the footsteps of the real Jesus..not the make believe mythical one…
And yeah those footsteps save lives and even words..as at my lowest point where almost everyone rejected me on the internet..I found one person who wanted to be my friend..that in effect brought my emotions back to life..as my only world without sight was the internet at that time..
All it was..was the word synesthesia..and after that..there are 13 websites that express all my creativity..now and true spirit the same as I see in the real historical Jesus..only in the last 7 months or so…
Passion and inspiration is what makes life for all social animals..and yeah..autistic or not..there is no escaping the DNA that makes us a social animal with no escape possible..except for human hell in real life…
So with that said I’ll leave another video as MUSICK of all kinds is the best way to emotions to cement a new learning experience into a memory..as well as humor of all kinds..even my dry kind..haha1!
And I’ll keep walking..even in words…
But likely somewhere else now..as in general there are hundreds of websites calling..hehe..see ya later brother or sister..haven’t checked your gender and don’t really give a f**k what It is..hesheH.ha…sexual orientation or WHATEVER else as WE ARE ALL CONNECTED…MY FRIEND(S)….
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:14 pm Post subject:
MCalavera wrote:
aghogday wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
And, no, octobertiger, I was not implying that I am an authority. Reread my post. I am saying that the psychologists themselves are the authority when it comes to these matters.
Aghogday Wrote:
Kool..humility! I like that..and yeah I’m like that in real life..when i’m not acting in my own directed and written internet play…
MCalavera Wrote:
Believe it or not, you couldn’t find anyone more humble than me in real life. 😛
Aghoday Wrote:
Well I’ll have to.. as believe It or not people tell me the same thing throughout my life and yeah now too..smiles..
These are just words not me at all…hehe…
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Another great religious related post by White Pearl..and my response below….
The Day When Personal Passion Was Sacrificed For The Highest Love
Hundreds of years ago….. A perfect complete home with a father and a son included. Both of them were filled with the same beautiful Love and compassion that is an essence of human nature since first man was forged into the world.
Father once had a dream, a hallucination, that he is sacrificing his son for Allah. Back in those times, Allah used to communicate with people through definite signs, How felicitous and fortunate they were !
The next night . he again witnessed the very dream. Postulating it to be a true one, as all his former dreams proved out to be true, He conceived from it that Allah demanded a sacrifice from him. In order to accomplish Allah’s command, he sacrificed a herd of camels and disseminated the meat among the poor.
Repeatedly in the following nights he witnessed the same dream and did the same sacrifices. Still, the dream didn’t cease. Then he had second thoughts.
He called his beloved son and elaborated him the story , he said “O my son! I have seen you being sacrificed in a dream; what do you say?” — (The Quran: 37:102)
The son, being aware of the fact that his father is a prophet of Allah, replied without any reluctance: “O my father! Do what you are commanded; if God please, you will find me of the patient ones” — (The Quran: 37:102).
The father , the son and his mother…. everyone though being anxious and shaken inside, were delighted and overjoyed over getting a chance to serve Allah. How sacramental they were !
Fatherly tender Love and child’s fond affection was going to be sacrificed for the Greater Divine. On their way to alter, they were distracted and horrified by the Satan but they didn’t let anything come in their way.
At the Altar the son threw himself prostrate before his illustrious father, who blindfolded as he was, lest his parental love should come in the way, applied the knife to his son’s throat. An exemplary conduct of complete submission to the will of Allah; sacrificing his only son in His way! The soul of Abraham within himself was praising the Lord, saying: “My prayer and my sacrifice and my life and my death are all for God, the Lord of the worlds”.
Angels stood metamorphosed, as it were, into lifeless pictures and overcome by extreme anxiety.
“God is great; God is great; God is great; God is great; There is no Allah, but He. And God is great; All praise for God.”
My words and my wisdom is not enough to pen down the great light and the essence of that very happening….
Abraham was about to cut the throat of his only son. But lo! He heard a voice from Above:
“O Abraham! you have indeed shown the truth of the Vision; thus We reward the doers of good. Surely this is a manifest trial” — (The Quran: 37:104-106).
The Patriarch laid down the knife and there was rejoicing mingled with thanksgiving that God had accepted the Sacrifice. It dawned on him what his Vision really meant – viz., that what God wanted was not the blood of his son but the sacrifice of that highest of love which a father has for his son and vice-versa. It was the sacrifice of personal passion that was acceptable to God and that was done both by the father and the son. The father and son fell down in prayer praising their Lord.
From that day, to commemorate this outstanding act of sacrifice (qurbani) by Prophet Abraham, people sacrifice a lamb, goat, ram or any other animal on Eid-ul-Adha and give the meat to friends, neighbors, relatives and the needy. Eid is celebrated with a great zeal and enthusiasm by the Muslims all over the world.
In-spite of judging the intentions of other people behind the sacrifice, Can’t we just do our part honestly ?
I wish all My brothers and sisters a very Happy Eid Mubarik ! People who are away for Hajj , a very warm Congratulations to them too !
Eat lots of meat (only your part ), get fat and remember me in your prayers
katiemiafrederick / October 16, 2013
Well as always the similarities between what Mohammad teaches and the real historical Jesus teaches are to close to same..
And ‘hear’ is the thing that you might be ‘hearing’ if you listen closer to these words..
A person who truly loves Allah or God as IT may be in Jesus or Mohammad teachings..will go against anyone to support that love for GOD and ALLah..yess..what this means..
IS!
I have to disagree! with my mother no matter if IT loses her love when she excludes GOD or ALLAH’s love for any other..homosexual or whatever…and yeah..I realize you don’t exclude love for homosexuals.. you ‘just’…in my opinion unfortunately..believe they are diseased..and not a part of religion as supported by the book of religion you read..
But here is the even greater ‘thing’ of ALLAH and/or GOD a person who truly wants to BE thIS LOVE AND LIGHT of ALLAH or/AND GOD will even go against the words in a book attributed to ALLAH OR/AND GOD…if ALLAH AND GOD as the SAME speaks appropriately to their HEART NOW..
But here IS the other ‘THing’…and worded for the metaphorical and not the literal…who the ‘hELl’ tOLD you that prophets of yesterday cannot be today..as SAME..NOW…
Only a man or a woman my friend…
NOT A GOD or an ALLAH….
And Yeah ..just my opinion..here as ALLAHGOD speaks to my heart everymoment of NOW in perfect HARMOnY for me..and only ME..as we ALL must find our paths someway somehow..that ring true for you or US or wE..as yOURS…
So smiles and love IS ALL..
And just a suggestion here..if you ever think that taking this next step in marriage..will take your higher love for ALLAH away..IT IS ALWAYS BEST TO LISTEN TO THE WORDS AND REALLY HEAR WHAT yOuR prophet has to say….
HEReNOW as the words and meanings are the same..as what Jesus teaches to me…
IN ONLY MY OPINION…
SO STILL NOW LOVE DEAR IS ALL…
NOWON
XXLOVEXX!!LIGHT!!
And another very controversial topic where White Pearl suggests that Woman should not have equal rights..
Topic only linked here..with my comment and her response to that comment..
Where one can always find middle Ground when a true Christian or a True Muslim or even a True Atheist communicate with love in mind as the top priority as love is only GOD AS ALL and everything else IS ALMOST purely rhetoric as long as LOVE REMAINS ALL IN CONVERSATION..WHATEVER THE DISAGREEMENTS MAY BE…AS WHATEVER CAN BE GOD WHEN LOVE IS ONE ABOVE ALL AND THE SAME AS ALL…
katiemiafrederick / October 14, 2013
Clearly defined social roles in any society are a vital aspect to the health of a society…
Throughout history there are some cultures that have had more patriarchal leaning social roles and others with more matriarchal leaning social roles..and overall social structure…
This is probably a key issue as to the differences in philosophies in religion and political structure of countries in the middle east as opposed to western Europe and the United States..
One main issue is that of reproductive control…
Without the development of the Birth Control Pill in 1960 and the legalization of abortion in 1973 in the US and associated spread of these new technological developments there would not likely have been a successful equal rights campaign in the US..per Civil Rights that included equal opportunity to jobs..etc..
Of course no one is equal as far as biology goes for anyone..as all human beings are both diverse in neurology and physical prowess…
There is a gender spectrum in biology that is not that much different than the rainbow in the sky..some men are feminine and some woman are masculine..brain gender does not always equal physical appearance…either…
There is a great deal of research in science that establishes evidence for this biological gender spectrum..and of course culture plays a huge role…as the structure of culture per matriarchal social structures may result in woman as the more dominant overall gender force…
Currently as far as biology goes..there are some countries where the population overall is sexually dimorphic in physical characteristics and others where the population overall has little overall difference in the physical size and associated characteristics for gender among the woman and men…
So..as you can see this is a very complex issue..and what may work in one country will absolutely not work in another country depending on the culture and actual biology of the individuals living in the country of focus…
Well..quite honestly as far as marriage goes…I like the fact that I am the dominant individual in the marriage as a male..as far as someone taking care of me…but on the other hand..I am also glad my wife is a very strong individual psychologically and does not mind at all to speak her mind with me…wherever she may be uncomfortable in the relationship…
I like to be nurtured by a woman ..and she likes to nurture me..
This is the patriarchal social structure i like in my family…
But in my opinion considering there is a gender spectrum of greatly varying characteristics I would never impose my will on another couple who may have completely different innate characteristics as far as gender and general inclinations go…than my wife and I…
I do not mind disagreeing about issues ..but I would never impose my will on another person in real life..nor do I ever try to do that in writing..but occasionally people take my metaphors too serious in that way…
No one can walk in the shoes of another person to accurately personally judge them in these matters..and if they could they could likely have a completely different viewpoint on these issues….
A long life of varying personal circumstances and differing contingencies..brings this kind of wisdom to an individual…
Almost impossible for some younger people to understand this more fully until they actually walk in many different pairs of shoes..for metaphor…
But the bottom line as far as science and biology goes..no tWO individuals are biologically equivalent..not even identical twins…
So there is really not even any reasonED discussion warranted…I think.. to refute this reality…
Equal rights as far as feminism goes in the US..has never been to say that woman and men are biologically equal..it has only been legal protection for equal pay and equal job opportunities..and other issues that in effect are determining factors as to whether or not someone will have opportunities to thrive in society..or even in some case even survive…
It is definitely a very complex issue..with many opinions differing depending on who is giving the opinions..their personal life experiences..and all the different shoes that one individual may have walked in..in life to provide their opinions on this interesting..and at times..actual dire issue for basic survival for individuals in society…
This is a very good topic to discuss and very interesting to see the great support for you here from your friends in the middle east…as most woman who would dare bring up a subject like this in western oriented internet target audiences in the US..would likely be savagely attacked in words for any suggestion that woman do not deserve equal rights…
Woman did work very hard in the US to get equal rights for job opportunities and protection from discrimination in the workplace and they do value these rights and protections very much..as there was much disparity before per lower pay for the same job and many other dire issues.. based on gender alone..per these issues of basic economics and basic ability to earn a subsistence for life…
Again though from me..thumbs for bringing it up..lovexx
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White Pearl / October 15, 2013
Well, First of all thank you so much for the detailed and wise discussion from your side on the topic.
I agree to most of your points. Yes the tings that work in one country may not work in the others.
Equal rights have an entire different meanings in West and east.
You are right, no one could walk in anyone other’s shoes.
Well I like the fact of dominant man in marriage too, I like the concept of women taking care of men.
I don’t have very much information about what women do in West because I haven’t saw them doing….though I have researched about their demands on what they call as equal rights.
Thank you so much for appreciating this topic and me too
Love you for all the support ! xx
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octobertiger wrote:
aghogday wrote:
WE ARE ALL CONNECTED…MY FRIEND(S)….]
Octobertiger wrote”
Ergo my posts are insanity, because I am arguing with myself.
😆
aghogday wrote:
WELL in effect if you were to argue with me..IT would be the same as we are essentially ONE..
But you don’t.. you try your best to understand….
Instead of really arguing..
That I see as love and GOD as one…and easy to discern even in words my FRIEND…
YOUR OPINIONS ARE VERY IMPORTANT HERE..AND MORE REFRESHING THAN ANYTHING HERE I HAVE COME ACROSS IN MONTHS…MORE THAN YOU know I think..but yeah we do knownothingeh…i ‘t’hnk’
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:29 pm Post subject:
MCalavera wrote:
You need to cool down and not let anger control you like that. Look what it’s having you do: making personal attacks against me and putting words in my mouth claiming that I am trying to be come off as the authority over everyone else.
I am probably older than you are by the way. Or maybe not. But I am not so lacking in experience or insight as you make me out to be. In fact, part of the reason I’m doing psychology is because of a couple of uncommon personal experiences I’ve had to go through. Call it arrogance if you will, but I am one of the top two (if not the top) students in the course I’m doing, and part of it is due to my insight and my age more than just rigid academic knowledge.
aghogday wrote:
wElL god healed me when psychology could not and that’s a documented fact..so just sayin…like my psychotherapist verifies as fact..IT IS a miracle..of GOD…and yeah sHE believes in close to the same definition of GOD AS I do..not this mythological bullshit taken literally..as yeah taken metaphorically some of IT MAKES SENSE..depending on how good one is at understanding metaphor..and yeah that’s not just an Autistic thing..many people in the general population can be clueless when IT comes to some metaphors..
And yeah the Broader Autism Phenotype…per the leading scientist in Europe..on Autism related research on empathy..clearly indicates that up to 10 to 15 percent of the population could fall into this Category…
So just in the US..that could be anywhere from 30 to 45 million people…
That’s lots of fundamentalist leaning potentially literally thinking folks my friend…
And yeah..lots of them are probably members of the tea party2…
No doubt than many fundamentalists have the same autistic leaning type of thinking as some of the atheists do on this site..there really is no difference except where one is raised ..and where one finds social comfort in life..
For some people IT’s church and for some people IT’s in the LAB..or WHATEVER…BUT PEOPLE EVERYWHERE ARE essentiALLy different and the sAME..
So here’s another little video..to generate..some deeper thought..if you can or if your will chooses as such..
Never judge the cover of the book…as they say..as the pages..could..even one page..cover the book..if actually read…
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DentArthurDent wrote:
adifferentname I am not sure whether to salute your fortitude or scold you for wasting your time reading aghogday’s nonsense 😯 😉 I just skim through, often the relevant bits are at the beginning and the end.
Adifferentname wrote:
Then I shall both thank you and accept my admonishment in equal measure until such a time as you are certain.
To my shame, I actually read his response to my post and, while it might be fun to poke him with the stick of reason, I see no genuine need to respond directly to such an artless tirade. That I am not alone in finding little value in his contribution is somewhat comforting, if I’m being honest. I wasn’t sure if my dismissal of his ‘words’ was justifiable or fair, whether or not I was guilty of being overly discriminatory of someone whose mental state might be somewhat fragile. After reading his reaction to my own assessment of his words, I am no longer conflicted. It is a far easier thing for me to dismiss one so arrogant in demeanour, yet so ignorant in fact.
There is a simple rule which should be applied in any debate or discussion and which applies especially to PPR. Play the ball, not the man. I make a point of always responding to the words an individual uses, deriving their meaning as best I understand it, making allowances for nuance, spelling or grammar. Additionally, as with all communication, I am very particular about the words I choose to use that they might convey precisely what it is I mean to say. When all participants are willing to use this approach, discussions are prone to be lively, productive and enjoyable affairs. Moreover, such a debate will be far more capable of withstanding heat, and so less prone to descent into a flame war.
Without being overly perfectionist, the majority of PPR regulars manage to get at least close to the mark, most of the time, when it comes to the above. However, I find Aghogday’s approach to posting is in almost perpetual breach of what I consider the etiquette of discourse. There is no doubt in my mind that his ego will prevent him from viewing this mild chastisement as anything other than another ‘personal attack’. If by some ‘miracle’ he is able to understand more clearly, it will be no more than the first step on a very long road to ‘redemption’.
Aghogday Wrote:
Dude.. I think you are forgetting something..I am close to an Expert not only on Autism..but psychology in general…
YOu are simply projecting here.. that is all…
It is pretty obvious that I have won this little battle over IS IT OK TO BELIEVE IN GOD…
BUT GO AHEAD.. KEEP ON TALKING..I NEVER GET TIRED..AND I CAN WRITE A MILLION MORE WORDS THIS WEEK..IF I SO FEEL LIKE IT….
I AM THE WINNER HERE… THAT IS ALL THERE IS TO IT…
AND YEAH.. TODAY.. I AM AWESOME.. BUT IT WASN’T ALWAYS THAT WAY….
AS I WAS THE DEVIL TOO.. AND I CAN PROVE THAT2…
NOW THINK ABOUT THAT ONE FOR A LITTLE WHILE TOO..
I’LL BE SEEING YOU IN YOUR DREAMS…
JUST A METAPHOR DUDE..
NOT A THRE@
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:40 pm Post subject:
MCalavera wrote:
So God is a metaphor or what?
If I am getting you right, are you saying that God doesn’t exist in a physical or literal sense, but that some people with certain qualities can experience this “metaphor thing” you call “God” in their lives?
Is that what it’s all about or am I getting you wrong?
aghogday wrote:
Well..metaphors can be a way to communicate the nuances of power that IS what I describe as GOD..
IT is a higher power that IS ALL.. that allows me to do things without experiencing the ”normal’ effects of gravity like curling 210 Lbs.. that is the stack.. on a nautilus machine at more weight than most any 23 year old marine at the military base that I personally equipped with government money when I was Athletic Director there..can lift…
This equipment is for professional athletes..and I was the skinniest looking kid anyone ever saw at 13 at 5 foot 10 and 120 Lbs..
So yeah..even at 53..6ft and 222LBs of solid muscle..this feat is still extraordinary at 53…
But I AM not the only one by far..Jack La Lane did similiar feats well past my age…as he tapped into this same GOD energy I AM talking about..
There is no need for labels for the essence that IS IT.. just IS that IS ALL…
And guess what..GOD is not an equal opportunity employer..what you get out of this life is what you put into it..there are no
guarantees in life..and the bad sh** that happens IS part of GOD too…
If You ever find yourself in true human hell as I did…you will totally understand that there is a GOD and there is no FAIR GOD IT IS ALL there IS and like IT or not..GOD is your master..that determines your ultimate faith..and/or fate….
So on a whim..who knows..make the waves..and maybe you’ll come back as a cricket and be smashed underfoot a thousand times..before graduating to roach..how the f*** would you know if this is not the way the whole thing works..
No you don’t and neither do I as all the energy that was iS and WILL be again…
The form that exists as consciousness in the future for you..may or may not exist..in the grand mix of energy that is..
Ok..I know that’s getting a little abstract..but yeah that is exactly how GOD works..
If tHERE IS NO language..people ARE just starting out to try to communicate their existence to others someway.. somehow…
Language cannot describe the Universe..fully IT can only attempt try to describe GOD as ALL..
So the metaphor is just a vehicle or vessel to understand the GOD TH@IS TRUE that IS ALL..
TO HAVE THE BEST LIFE POSSIBLE AS IS..
WHY NOT TAKE THE VEHICLE OR VESSEL TO THE BEST..
ALL I KNOW IS I AM SMART ENOUGH TO DO IT…
And yeah lucky too.. as I could be a seagull eating raw meat on the beach ‘write’ about now…
We are all instruments of GOD that iS ALL there IS TO It..
Enjoy the wave my friend..
And stay on top until you drown..
God gave you a gift..
Th@ is ALL…
Make IT GRE@ or MAKE IT weak…
IS ALL UP to YOU AND WE OR yOuRs and i….
as US…
But GOD is the Master of ALL…
AS ALL is GOD..AS ONEISOneNOWON!
By the way I could just as well call GOD..’whatever’ as opposed to GOD..Yes! GOD is only a metaphor my friend..for the essence that IS…
And as promised..
The other supporting evidence that does back up my claim of living alive once again..walking in light and yes being that Light and Love..
TH@id e scribe as love and LIGHT….
In case anyone wonders what NF-4 means in government service..IT is a pay band equivalent to the old GS rating of 9 through 11..
And yes..I am paid at he end of my career at 50Kplus..the GS11..Pay Rate… at that time..in 2008…
Documented in this Link..along with a little story..about true Gratitude if one wills…
By the way..as far as the devil face goes..documented in the link..in an informal survey of various Super Walmart customers..last night! shortly after I made a cameo appearance as the devil there..captured by iphone5…
All the customers surveyed said! I am as scary or scarier than the devil incarnate..
So HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I AM always ready for HALLOWEEN..
ANDNOIDO NOT EVEN NEED A MASK…
HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH..H……
I TOLD PEOPLE HERE SOME TIME ago.. GOD IS a LAUGH AND ‘NO’ I AM JOKING….
Uh OH! I see a full moon brewing out my window..
It IS almost werewolf time again…and yeah..IT’s hard to say if
I AM the devil or a werewolf in that picture..just imagine a werewolf face
instead of a devil face..if you will..basically the same thing..the wild inherent nature…
OF MAN is REALLY ALL THIS STUFF IS A SYMBOL FOR ANYWAY FROM THE DOMESTICATED WAY OF LIFE..
WE DO HAVE NOW…
I AM NO LONGER DOMESTICATED..HEHE…HAHA…HUH?HEH!Y
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Grave Is Your Destination…
** Urdu lines are taken from a Naat read by Junaid Jamshed.
Duniya k aye musaafir , Manzil teri Qabar hai
Manzil teri qabar hai…
Tay ker raha hai jo tu, do din ka ye safar hai
du din ka ye safar hai…
O traveler of the world, grave is your destination
Grave is your destination…
The one you are travelling, is a two days exploration
Is a two days exploration…
Sitting at the back seat in the car by window side, she settled her head at corner of the window glass. Her eyes were wandering along the trees and the roads…. people of different ages on various vehicles, In a hurry to reach somewhere, to do something…. alone or with their families…. Colorful clothes…. Chatting , smiling faces…… Energetic and glowing children running by the road side…. bright blue clouds…. It was Eid day… Eid which is a second name for happiness……..
Ankhon sa tu nay apni , kitnay janazay dekhay ?
Hathon sa tunay apnay , dafnay kitnay murday ?
Dafnay Kitnay murday….
Anjam sa tu apnay , kyun itna be khabar hai ?
Kyun Itna Be khabar hai…
With your own eyes, how many funerals have you witnessed ?
With your own hands, How many dead’s have you buried ?
How many dead’s have you buried…
Of your consequence, why are you so ignorant ?
Why are you so ignorant…
She had a bad mood since morning that day… She cried over small things… It was Eid ! She was supposed to be happy but she locked herself in her room and cried her heart out laying down on the floor… She realized her last Eid was the same… It started with tears too…and the third last Eid….and the previous ones… She realized ‘Eid’s ‘ are not made for her…. She realized her ‘Eid’ had not come yet… She realized she had no part in today’s happiness…… Or any happiness at all ?
Why ? Why don’t I have the right to feel happy like normal people ? Why don’t you feel me ? She had questions for Him….. He was not answering !
Then she realized she had been thinking about her past and the future , all her life…every moment of her present , she never had a present. Her present was filled with thoughts of the past or worries of the future. She thought, what If she dies today , this very moment ? What has she done to herself ?
Makhmal main sonay walay, mitti main so rahay hain
shah o gada yaha per , sub ek ho rahay hain
Sab aik ho rahay hain….
Dono hoye barabar ye mout ka asar hay
Ye mout ka asar hai…
The ones who slept in silk, are sleeping now in clay
Kings and servants here, are all getting same…
Are all getting same…
Both got equal, this is the effect of death
This is the effect of death…
Her mom was calling her….She was saying her to get ready…to wear colorful clothes…to be lively…. And she was dead already. She never knew for what parents is this said, that they can know what is in your heart by looking at your eyes…
She had to be happy for the ones who love her and who can’t see her sad. She had to live in present for some time. She had to get rid of the unending dark loneliness inside her… May be thinking about life is not what should be done. May be death is the ultimate truth to be thought of….She stood up. She had to fake it again.
After all the fear of death follows from the fear of life….
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katiemiafrederick / October 16, 2013
Well..I think there is the logic of God that has many words and the light of God that is love that has no words…
So may that light and love come to you soon as GOD is not fair..and the faith that is the Light and Love is never guaranteed no matter the LOGIC of GOD that is words…
That gift came to me when I was 21 out of nowhere..expected..left after three months..came back at age 22 and existed until 47…so now iT IS back foreverNOW…
There are no words to adequately describe this but I try…I try..i cry..to share….
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5694786.html#5694786
AspieOtaku wrote: video above linked…
Aghogday Wrote:
Well here’s the thing..not everyone get’s to be the light and love and not everyone experiences..miracles..
like I said..God Is not fair..and unfortunately as my best ‘Super Power” is seeing the soul of others through their eyes..and yeah these Guys are dead in affect..as far as their connection to God goes..
But yeah…been their done the dead stuff too..and oh well that is life and GOD..
Not everyone gets to be the light…
It is a special gift that IS ALL..
And yeah..one can even call IT the chosen Ones if one likes..
As who knows those who walk in darkness instead of light and life..that is the love of God..may never experience prayers or miracles that are real..as who knows..only GOD knows if KARMA REally exists..and they are just working off their Karmic debt of death and darkness as opposed to light and love and life that makes prayers and miracles real in some people’s lives but only dead in affect in other people’s life…
The mysteries are many…the answers are truly few….
I’ve got so many answers I cannot yet put into words..but there is time my friend in NOW to continue to pursue to adequately share the BLISS that some people actually do….live in light and love..forevernowoneasall…
IT IS THE GIFT THAT IS ALL
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:07 am Post subject: Re: Is it okay to believe in God?
Lovely_Leah wrote:
Yes. It is truly amazing to believe in God.
Aghogday Wrote:
And an abyss to lose that bliss…
Butevermorenow…
In hopes of tomorrow..and continued believing in GOD…
But the saddest element of all..
Are those individuals who have no faith or belief @ALL…
And have no reference point 4gOD@ALL…
The human hell..never to awake….
The Darkness for ever dark…
never waking..
into..
LIGHTthe
humanhellthatIS…
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Lovely_Leah wrote:
Yes. It is truly amazing to believe in God.
And an abyss to lose that bliss…
Butevermorenow…
In hopes of tomorrow..and continued believing in GOD…
But the saddest element of all..
Are those individuals who have no faith or belief @ALL…
And have no reference point 4gOD@ALL…
The human hell..never to awake….
The Darkness for ever dark…
never waking..
into..
LIGHTthe
humanhellthatIS…
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Speak for yourself. I feel much more relief now that I’m free from faith.
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:24 am Post subject:
MCalavera wrote:
Speak for yourself. I feel much more relief now that I’m free from faith.
Yep, below pretty much sums it up for me.
Regarding his sudden clarity on the subject of evolution:
“It was a concept of such stunning simplicity, but it gave rise, naturally, to all of the infinite and baffling complexity of life. The awe it inspired in me made the awe that people talk about in respect of religious experience seem, frankly, silly beside it. I’d take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day” Douglas Adams.
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:13 am Post subject:
^ It’s almost as if Douglas Adams is your god. Not a bad choice, I must admit.
aghogday wrote:
octobertiger wrote:
aghogday wrote:
WE ARE ALL CONNECTED…MY FRIEND(S)….]
Ergo my posts are insanity, because I am arguing with myself.
Aghogday Wrote:
WELL in effect if you were to argue with me..IT would be the same as we are essentially ONE..
But you don’t.. you try your best to understand….
Instead of really arguing..
That I see as love and GOD as one…and easy to discern even in words my FRIEND…
YOUR OPINIONS ARE VERY IMPORTANT HERE..AND MORE REFRESHING THAN ANYTHING HERE I HAVE COME ACROSS IN MONTHS…MORE THAN YOU know I think..but yeah we do knownothingeh…i ‘t’hnk’
OCTOBERTIGER wrote:
One sees separation or one sees unity. There cannot be both – because this is the ‘duality’ that I know of, and it’s an ego compromise.
All of our conventional senses will teach seperation. Those who believe in the form will see separation. They’ll have little moments where things seem different, of course, but will brush them away as being ‘the dream’. When, the opposite is true.
Form, like time, is transitory and temporary. One day, when our journey into procrastination is over, and our internet dramas seen for what they are ( ! ) we all will know that what you’re saying is true.
Understanding will come – but not necessarily on our ego’s terms, and certainly not on my ego’s terms.
Love to all my brothers, regardless of what they currently believe. What’s true is true.
What more is there really to say?
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:27 am Post subject:
MCalavera wrote:
Speak for yourself. I feel much more relief now that I’m free from faith.
Aghogday Wrote:
The faith I am talking about has no religion friend..and of course I only speak for myself..and have no idea how you experience life..but this is what my extreme empathy sees in the eyes of many..
Now you don’t show your face..but if you did..I would see your soul..
That is my Autistic superpower friend..like IT or not IT exists….
IT IS WH@ITIS…..
IAMWHATIAM….
And if you never truly felt faith..
How would you know what tRUEFAITH IS…
IT IS NOT THE BELIEF IN A MAN DYING ON A CROSS..
IT IS THE POWER OF THIS THING CALLED GOD THAT ALLOWS ME TO MOVE ‘MOUNTAINS’…
NOW THAT’S reALLY KOOL my friend..I thought ALL NERDS WANTED TO BE SUPERMAN..AND YEAH I
DON’T MIND ADMITTING FREELY I AM A GEEK AT HEART..
SO SUPERMAN IS WHERE IT”S@TFORME..AND YEAH ONLY ME IS KOOL IF YOU SAY SO AND I GUESS THAT’S YTHERE ARE NOT MANY SUPERMEN IN THE WORLD….
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:35 am Post subject:
to try to convince someone that god does not exist does not bear thinking about.
i think you wade in dangerous waters.
god is all there is. nothing happens outside of “god”
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:55 am Post subject:
octobertiger wrote:
^ It’s almost as if Douglas Adams is your god. Not a bad choice, I must admit. 😉
aghogday wrote:
octobertiger wrote:
aghogday wrote:
WE ARE ALL CONNECTED…MY FRIEND(S)….]
OCTOBER TIGER WROTE:
Ergo my posts are insanity, because I am arguing with myself.
😆
AGHOGDAY WROTE:
WELL in effect if you were to argue with me..IT would be the same as we are essentially ONE..
But you don’t.. you try your best to understand….
Instead of really arguing..
That I see as love and GOD as one…and easy to discern even in words my FRIEND…
YOUR OPINIONS ARE VERY IMPORTANT HERE..AND MORE REFRESHING THAN ANYTHING HERE I HAVE COME ACROSS IN MONTHS…MORE THAN YOU know I think..but yeah we do knownothingeh…i ‘t’hnk’
OCTOBER TIGER WROTE:
One sees separation or one sees unity. There cannot be both – because this is the ‘duality’ that I know of, and it’s an ego compromise.
All of our conventional senses will teach seperation. Those who believe in the form will see separation. They’ll have little moments where things seem different, of course, but will brush them away as being ‘the dream’. When, the opposite is true.
Form, like time, is transitory and temporary. One day, when our journey into procrastination is over, and our internet dramas seen for what they are ( ! ) we all will know that what you’re saying is true.
Understanding will come – but not necessarily on our ego’s terms, and certainly not on my ego’s terms.
Love to all my brothers, regardless of what they currently believe. What’s true is true.
What more is there really to say? :D[/quote]
AGHOGDAY WROTE:
THAT IS TRULY BEAUTIFUL OCTOBERTIGER..
DID I TELL YOU ihave a tiger in my Hondatruck…
I do… MY FATHER IS A FLEA MARKET junkie after retiring from
LawENFORCEMENT for over 40 years and he has a collection of GIANT STUFFED ANIMALS IN HIS LIVING ROOM
AT 81..love COMES L@ESOMETIMES…
He gave me the TIGEr.. the first time I really felt love from my f@her…
I love tigers they are majestic creatures..and truly proof of GOD to ME when I see their great power in person..of pure energy of life…
ANIMALSare never separated..blissISthere way of life..for the most part when resting…
AS HomeosTasis is always the goal in the animal kingdom…
Except for ‘stupid’ human beings like I used to BE…..
OHGODTHISISSOSIMPLE…
MY CAT HAS ALL THE ANSWERS…
He IS just trying to find a way to ‘tell me’..and all ‘his relatives’ of Tigers all these YEARS…
ANDOHMYGOD..I ALWAYS EXPERIENCE THIS BLISs nOW…
I TRYITRYITRYICRY TO SHARE IT…
THAT IS ALL…
THERE IS NO COST TO ME EXCEPT FOR MORE BLISS OF LOVE….
THE REAL THAT IS….
WHAT I CALL GOD….
LOVE YOU FRIEND..
MEETING YOU MAKES IT ALL WORTH IT….
AS THERE ARE SO FEW OF US ON THE INTERNET….
THAT I EVER MEET..AND reALLY connect with….
BUT SO MANY AT MY CATHOLIC CHURCH..
THE ONES WHO ARE PART OF THE REAL LOVE CLUB IF YOU WILL…
So with that here is another little song…
about the Love CLUB….
The gre@est thing about living in the abyss for over 60 months as a complete shut in…
With no ability to view popular culture in song or videos…
IS when I regained full use of my hearing and sight…
OMG the word DID change…
Perhaps people who were IN IT THOSE 60 MONTHS did NOT notice..
BUT NOW WITH THE ADVENT OF YOU TUBE AND GOOGLE AND BLOGS AND ALL THIS…
GLOBAL INTERCONNECTIVITY FOR CREATION ACTIVITY AMONG HUMAN BEINGS…
THERE IS A NEW LOVE CLUB…
I CALL IT
UNIBITIONambitionationwillunderlove…
Yeah.. that’s a long word but IT SAYS IT ALL of what IS already here and coming more…
The philosophy of WILL UNDER LOVE as expressed by one of the most truly influential men of the 20th CENTURY…
Aleister Crowley is GROWING ACROSS THE GLOBE…
And OmG…
IT IS A POWERFUL GROWING FORCE…
THAT IS FINALLY HERE..ON A GLOBAL BASIS..
IT IS SO EXCITING BUT I WONDER IF ANYONE ELSE..
HAS TIME TO STEP BACK AND SEE THE GLOBAL PICTURE…
WELL I DO…
haha…
HEHE…
LOVE UNDER WILL IS WHERE IT’S@
AND OH MY GOD IT IS FINALLY HERE…
AS WELL AS VICTORY OVER VENGEANCE AS SO ADEQUATELY EXPRESSED
BY RONAN HARRIS OF VNV NATION…
OPTIimiSM BABY..I FINALLY HAVE OPTIMISM FOR THIS THING CALLED THE HUMAN RACE…
AND LOVE IS TRULY THE WAY I SEE ALONG WITH CREATIVITY..
TO SAVE THE HUMAN RACE…
AS THE SUPRAORGANISM MIND OF THE SPECIES AS WHOLE…
IS FINALLY BECOMING LOVE…
AND GOD
INHERENTLY AS IT WAS BEFORE THE APPLE AND THE TREE OF KNOWLEDGE…
TO PUT IT METAPHORICALLY…..
so SEE YA L@ER AND NOW AS WE ALL ARE TRULY CONNECTED..
IN THE REALITY THAT IS REAL…..
MY FRIEND(s)…
AND yeah…MANY OF THESE LOVE PIONEERS..IN POP CULTURE..
ARE LEAST ON THE BROADER AUTISM PHENOTYPE…
THE ONES LIKE YOU AND ME…
WITH THE EXTREMEST OF EMPATHIES….
THERE IS MORE TO TH@ INDIGO CHILD THEORY…
than meets the logical eye…
so bye is never bye…
just..
seeyal@ter…and now….
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And by the way I did not correct the formatting here as per what
I said in the first part of my quote you quoted..as we are are one in delivering the same TRUE MESSAGE….
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b9 wrote:
to try to convince someone that god does not exist does not bear thinking about.
i think you wade in dangerous waters.
god is all there is. nothing happens outside of “god”
AGHOGDAY WROTE:
I AGREE with you b9..i suppose I could be in dangerous w@ers…
If this IS the ‘real world’..as there are some reALLy angry atheists out there in the real world…
But this is just the internet..and I AM still anonymous here…
So I AM not in any danger here…
But as Love I AM also almost completely uninhibited in real life in sharing thIS….
simple GOD th@IS so yeah..I do admit I tread in dangerous waters there…
in the general public…
But I AM fearless now to share this simple LOVE TH@IS GOD…
th@IS the Powerful force of me…
NoW…
And interestingly enough I AM probably in even more dangerous W@ers with
the Christians in my area..who some of which KNOW GOD LESs than my wonderful atheist friends….
HERE AND THERE in the ‘real world’…
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DentArthurDent wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
Speak for yourself. I feel much more relief now that I’m free from faith.
DENT ARTHUR DENT WROTE:
Yep, below pretty much sums it up for me.
Regarding his sudden clarity on the subject of evolution:
“It was a concept of such stunning simplicity, but it gave rise, naturally, to all of the infinite and baffling complexity of life. The awe it inspired in me made the awe that people talk about in respect of religious experience seem, frankly, silly beside it. I’d take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day” Douglas Adams.
AGHOGDAY WROTE:
Interesting..haha..you believe in the same GOD as I do my wonderful atheist friend…
Oh words.. Oh words.. oh words..oh semantics..how they divide and kill love…
People are growing brains my friend…
People finally understand the essence of WH@IS…
Words are only empty vessels…
without
true
meanings…
The essence of TRUEIS always true..being there IS ALL th@M@ters….
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DentArthurDent wrote:
adifferentname wrote:
Ironically, one of the most ill-defined words in use today is the word ‘god’.
Arthur Dent Wrote:
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo don’t give aghogday another thread in which to lambast us because we don’t believe in god even though his version of god is what we refer to as the natural world 😆
adifferentname wrote:
It’s such a shame that people have to resort to these lengths – writing articles, explaining over and over again – that words often have more than one meaning or usage.
Dent Arthur Dent wrote:
Yep i could not agree more. I recently let some J. witness’s in for a bit of sport the other day. Why oh why do they still think that evolution is wrong because it cannot explain the formation of life, and that it is “only a theory anyway”.
Back to the article, I trust in the scientific method to come up with the best possible conclusion based upon the evidence available at the time, I also expect it to change that conclusion when new evidence presents itself. I have confidence in the paradigm that it will either quickly or over a period of time expose bias, obfuscation or worse still outright manipulation (e.g Milgram) of evidence by members of the scientific community. This perspective is not a pseudo religious belief/faith and to quote a recent statement does equate to “So you have a very interesting religion my friend.. And a GOD called Science”
Aghogday Wrote:
**shakes head..amusingly…
You know your are enabling me here..smiles..:)
Well..here is the difference between people who believe in things that don’t HAVE evidence as opposed to things that do have evidence…
Technically speaking there was no potential for me as a youngster with Autism to ever be successful in life..if any doctor was asked..
I could not speak until age 4 and was skin and bones and could barely walk in a straight gait…still at age 13 and still could not speak coherently until well after College…
The only difference between me and other classmates that ended up living with their parents until their 40’s and beyond was I thought the impossible was not only possible but was a certainty that I could make happen with my will alone..
Well..I already proved that happened in the other thread..as I am financially independent by the time I reached 48..and can buy and do anything I want at age 53…now..that I am completely recovered…with all the other incredible physical feats of abilities…
BUT guess what… I was so ill that no doctor would ever release me to work for the rest of my life to take the chance that all my auto immune illnesses would come back out of remission…
So I win..I win ..i win..that is all as I will..I WILL IT ALL..and more than anything else I believe I can do the impossible and make it happen simply because I believe…
IT does NOT m@ter what GOD or WHAT RELIGION A PERSON IS PART OF AS LONG AS THEY KNOW THEY CAN MAKE MIRACLES HAPPEN..AND THAT MY FRIEND..IS WHAT I HAVE DONE MY ENTIRE LIFE…
THAT IS ALSO MY AUTISTIC SUPERPOWER.. MAKING MIRACLES HAPPEN..NOT ONLY FOR ME..BUT FOR OTHERS ALSO….
I AM ONLY HERE TO SPREAD WISDOM MY FRIEND..BELIEVE IT OR NOT..IS OK..AS I AM ALREADY REFERRED TO AS A LIVING MIRACLE WHERE I LIVE….
I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO PROVE HERE..AS I AM THE PROOF WHERE I LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD..YEAH..THAT FLESH AND BLOOD ONE OFFLINE WITH REAL FLESH AND BLOOD PEOPLE TO LOOK IN THE EYE….
So I’ll leave you with this little video..and keep mentioning my name and I’ll be back..as you just will not ignore me it seems no matter what I do for you to amuse me…to write a little bit more beat poetry….
I do not need any money..in fact i have so much that if there are any more windfalls I’ll just give IT away…
So I write..cause writing is fun..and poetry2….
Among a thousand other things in real life..that amuseme2…or 3or5..
But seriously this song is not joke..the power of belief can make miracles happen..no matter what the source of the belief may be….
The actual historical Jesus..was a genius understanding human psychology..by self learning and observing others in life…
It’s not his fault that other people came in behind him..some who did not even know him…to write a far removed ‘second hand account’….
It requires no degree.. just patience and observing…approximately what one does with the scientific…free mason..method…when one does not learn all there is to know in college..or other rigid ways of learning..based on closed in walls instead of walls open to the entire possibilities of learning..in this world…the whole that never can be fully learned..as It changes all the time…
….anyway…..
So I’m thinking I’LL BE BACK..TO QUOTE ‘the terminator’….
Seeyal@er….
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Fnord wrote:
Janissy wrote:
The entire article depends on a misdefinition of the word belief. The word belief means the acceptance that something is true. There may be evidence or there may not…
Fnord Wrote:
Where there is no evidence*, we call it Faith. Where there is evidence*, we call it Knowledge.
(*”Evidence” being something other than a few dozen cherry-picked passages from a collection of largely apocryphal stories originating with a motley collection of innumerate and semi-illiterate nomads since before the Bronze Age.)
Aghogday Wrote:
Hmmm..one does not have to have words to know GOD..IN FACT words can be the obstacles..in fact…
Ask your..CAT if you have..one..he/she WILLNOT need to answer..anyway…as IT IS a MOOTMEOW..point…
Usually semi-literate people ‘know’ GOD better than literate ones..simply as they usually spend more time in the empathy pathways..of the brain…rather than the cold hard analytical parts of the brain that are great @systemizing..but do not feel anything or any GOD with wILL..for the most part….
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Very long..but what i found as an extremely interesting public facebook discussion about ‘GOD’ and autism with my one of two brave enough people..hehe..to be a friend on facebook..outside of my cousin to make three…hehe again..Oh boy…I guess I’m not facebook material in general..but that is ok..as I do not know how anyone could really focus and spend enough time to actually interact with 2 or three hundred facebook friends…
Katie Mia I think everyone should be free to believe what they want and do not think anyone should ever attempt to impose their own will on others..
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Katie Mia But..Religion practiced in a way where there is no hate or personal judgement against others..that focuses on love..IS beautiful in my opinion…
I believe in the ‘GOD’ of nature and love..as a force not a anthropomorphized entity..and witnessed as unexplained phenomenon..at times..but I am sure but natural still phenomenon in myself and others..that are just part of the unexplained mysteries of life..that keep me in wonderment and curiosity..still as I was as a small child…
And inf
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Katie Mia Ugh..shift enter…
And in fact..the current understanding of the historical Jesus does not at all completely reflect many of the myths surrounding this ‘Zealots’ viewpoints on the nature of being..or what some might refer to the connections of ALL THA…See More
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Katie Mia And I do find the topic above very interesting..and what I find is that many people in the Autistic community in the past have used the topic of parent hatred or hatred of autism speaks..as a common bond of opposition toward an enemy for social cohesion..not that much different really than people who use the devil in religion as a common enemy for social cohesion in religion…
So yeah..in effect IT is extremely hard for any human being to escape this phenomenon known as the religious experience…semantics and who the heroes and enemies are can be what makes the difference..What IT really comes down to is social animals..doing what IT takes to get along with each other..and share the resources for subsistence..
Most unfortunately IT IS almost impossible in this social phenomena for someone not to be excluded from the club as the bottom line as always for all animals is the competition required for survival…
But through logic and humanly designed moral codes we can be enlightened to a higher plane of love than other animals.. without this advantage..or we can possibly be the most brutal hating animal in the Universe..as metaphor…with the disadvantage to destroy life on this earth..well beyond our own species..and that is what I see as the ultimate hate of hell….to use another metaphor…
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Miranda Flemming that vaccination topic in particular with autism is exactly like religious beliefs – people are so aggressive etc and for those of us that are interested in the facts, it’s hard to find many under all the politics. That’s why I tend to err on the side of science together with my own observations. Science might be tainted by politics these days too, but at least it’s evidence-based & open to new information, which is a good model, I think
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Katie Mia Oh yes I believe that science is my GOD also..in fact..when I watch the video linked below It is the same experience I feel in connectivity with others in love at my church..and no IT is not the emotional jealous type of love..IT is what can be described as agape..as unconditional love for everything in the Universe..from a grain of sand to a galaxy..
And oh yeah..the vaccination thingy..is just another word for the devil in some of those groups too..or if one is a football fan the New york Jets..the University of Florida..or whatever the devil may be..haha…
So yeah..the folks in this video are practicing my religion too..the science of GOD…or the symphony and musicK of GOD Whatever may be that IS…
I think IT is about time that the real LOVE people in this world as the AMerican Indians once were in the Great spirit of all connectedness of nature and sacred love for IT TAKE back the word GOD for where IT truly belongs..as the GOD of ALL not some private club for everyone that does the same things….That IS WHAT I do anyway..I tell the atheists I believe In GOD and I Tell the Christians I believe in GOD…all there is IS semantic differences in the long run when final conclusions are made..in a debate..where neither side gives up…I’ve done IT too many times to count in my life..and yes IT’s hard to deny that the ALL IS GOD..as the ALL IS TRULy a master of our lives we can never escape as long as we live…
So all I can say is yNOT enjoy IT with everyone..as my personal philosophy that is..as No I am never going to impose my will on others..as that is the only true sin..I see.. in this life..drawing anyone away from their true WIlL no matter how different IT may be than mine….
Symphony of Science – ‘We Are All Connected’ (ft. Sagan, Feynman, deGrasse Tyson & Bill Nye)
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MP3 available at http://www.symphonyofscience.com/. “We Are All Connected” was made from sampling Carl Sagan’s Cosmos, The History Channel’s Universe series, …
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Miranda Flemming well if you look at ‘tribal’ people etc, their spiritual beliefs are/were of many gods – god of sun, god of seas etc. The idea of one ‘personal’ god evolved in some parts of world in past few thousand years – and there isn’t much agreement about this one god. And nothing much ‘personal’ either when I’ve asked people about their ‘relationship’ with god/Jesus (and my own former christian faith, although sincere at the time may has well been an imaginary friend – talking to nothing). Alchemy, a precursor to science and medicine had a mixture of experimentation and spiritual ideas – they alchemists were trying to distill the ‘essense’ of life amongst other things. Quantum physics seems to be more alchemy than science. Many people go for a more universal spirituality idea like the alchemists – ‘new age’ etc ie that ‘god’/’spirit’ etc is in everything – a ‘life force’
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Katie Mia I am perfectly fine with tribal people’s breaking down their ideologies of GOD into separate components..as that is what I would call their true will too…and in fact they might be right in the long run..too…I don’t know..that’s the beauty of all of IT in my opinion..none of us truly have ALL the answers IT’s just a journey and not even one where one IS required to seek the truth..anyway..just something that has always been a hobby of mine..and to be clear again GOD is the force of Love in my mind of no hatred..personal judgement..and also no fear beyond the innate fears of falling and loud noises..as all other fears are simply learned illusions…
And yes I do believe in what IS described as Miracles as I have been able to accomplish actual physical feats..in my life..that science cannot yet come close to explaining..and I am the most skeptical person you will likely ever meet..as far as woo..and that type of thing..goes…
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Miranda Flemming you sound like you’re high or something – sorry if that offends. What I thought was interesting too in my research into history of religion, medicine, science etc is the concept of the soul – not a christian invention, but was to try and explain what ‘makes’ a person. And they believed the heart was where emotions were made. Which evidence points to now is there is no such thing as a ‘soul’ – what makes a person is their brain – their brain is the origin of their thoughts, emotions, beliefs, personality etc. Damage the brain by disease or injury and the ‘person’ changes. When the brain dies, the person dies too.
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Katie Mia Oops I missed the rest of your comment..Yeah the end with quantum physics and alchemy pretty much describes the territory I am currently exploring..and do see some truths ringing there that are extremely interesting at this point in my life…
Maybe IT’s because of the Autism..I don’t know… but I could never accept the myth that Jesus IS actually ‘the’ God..and I can’t get over how illogical I think IT is that this myth still exists..among so called educated people…
I really can’t see GOD as anything but a perceptive force..of feeling..and not something that likely ever can be adequately described with human language..and I do know for sure that a person who has this experience of what I describe as GOD can be completely separated from IT as I was certainly in that place for 5 years..and people like Mother Teresa reported this experience for decades…so IT is very likely that some people never experience this thing I personally describe as GOD..and even my Catholic religious folks preach that this thing called FAITH or the actual feeling of the experience of GOD is not a given..and never a guarantee….
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Katie Mia HAHA I’m always high on life Miranda..an no I’ve never done any non prescription drugs..but I am often referred to as a special ops kind of looking guy in my local military area..and the farthest thing away from a person who is a philosopher..but never judge a book by IT’s cover I guess..from a distance.. but yeah when people start to talk to me and see the bright light in my eyes and face..they either ask me what I am on..or let me have some of IT..hehe..
It’s bliss..that
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Miranda Flemming I read a few books about alchemy – think one was the ‘dummy’s guide’ -was rather interesting because achemy symbolism etc in religion, medicine etc. Some very intelligent & enquiring individuals for their time. Interesting too that these individuals were considered sorcerers etc by the church who burned them at stake (along with cats). Origins in ancient egypt etc. While I don’t subscribe to their philosophies, I found it rather interesting how their ideas all through christianity and other areas who also call it evil
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Katie Mia ‘s all IT is..and yeah I found the secret.. to it..and yeah Jesus probably did too..along with Buddha and all those dudes..who doesn’t want bliss..I like It and IT’s almost my complete experience of life now..IT’s great..that about ALL I can say about IT..you want some..I wish I could give IT to ya..if I could I would….
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Miranda Flemming one of the problems I observe with religions that subscribe to a personal god is that believers often don’t take any personal responsibility for their actions. The devil is the scapegoat and so is anyone that questions. (I’ve been a scapegoat many times for daring to question)
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Katie Mia Oh yeah..I’ve recently been turned on to Aleister Crowley..one of the greatest alchemists of the 20th century…and he is an extremely interesting man that was disgusted at fundamentalist Christian ideas..and went on to create his own..f**** religion..where he suggests the only law is that of will under love and do as thou wilt without harm to others..and yeah..that does pretty much sum up what I have always inherently believed anyway..like IT IS in my DNA or something..like that…All it really is..is the Golden rule..so simple..yet so beautiful…
And of course in that early part of last century the religious right and political structure was threatened by him..and made up some interesting myths about him…that he even went with..like he was the most wicked man in the world..The whole thing is kind of hilarious really..as in actuality there are many people in corporations..and pop culture..that are still delivering his messages to the masses today..who actually see him as having the real ‘truth’ about this thing called GOD..or the Love that is all to be unselfishly shared..even folks like Miley Cyrus and her directors..Oh god..they are so clever in manipulating the masses into seeing what I personally see as the real truth..too. of Aleister Crowley..It’s just funny as I was so tortured by fundamentalists folks as youth..and this guy is like the revenge of the nerds big time..if you want to put iT that way..as he is dead and still winning the hearts of the world….
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Katie Mia Ugh..the idea of a personal god..outside of a person..makes my skin crawl..as It Is so illogical to me…
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Miranda Flemming like you said earlier about how humans have the power to do good or evil – that’s it really – humans have to learn to figure that out instead of ascribing it to some outside force controlling them. Humans can learn empathy and responsibility or they can do the opposite.
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Katie Mia Yeah..and any religion of hate..which in total effect is what often comes with current Muslim and Christian religions that still motivate violence and discrimination against others with hateful actions..is the true thing called the ANTI-CHRIST in my opinion as the this metaphor that Jesus was talking about..the CHRIST thing is only this unconditional type of love power I am talking about.. so hate is the true anti-christ in metaphorical effect..and in general some modern religions are playing their ‘dirty’ role as this thing that is opposite to love…
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Miranda Flemming I love spending time with cats and dogs – the simple things in life give them such joy – new smells, food, some affection. Their joy is my joy. I want to call my book ‘pet purpose’. Because a friend said jokingly that cats have no purpose in life. And also because so many religious folk mistakenly claim that atheists lead meaningless lives with no purpose, no ethics etc
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Katie Mia Oh yeah..to your comment above..that is basically what I would call CHRIST.. this human potential to do this…that yeah I do know is possible as I’ve done IT most of my life.. but no never perfect…That’s all that Jesus was really saying anyway..the power is in you..not outside of you..and It is so f*** amazing that some of those words still exist in the NEW TESTAMENT..BUT nobody seems to still ‘GET IT’..if you will….
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Miranda Flemming you would probably find researching alchemy quite interesting – it’s a philosophy that is incorporated into many religions etc. themes & metaphors like purification, resurrection, eternal life etc. Humans had a quest for ‘eternal life’. It’s hard to imagine these days with our comfortable lives how people used to live, where half of babies born died even a few hundred years ago and people didn’t live long before got sick and died. People physically tolled for their short existence. I can see how they came up with concepts such as heaven & eternal life – an escape from their dull existence
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Katie Mia Oh yeah..Cats and DOGS..experience GOD all the time in my opinion..for one simple reason..they don’t have the collective intelligence to invent this thing called hate…and they do unconditionally love and unconditionally forgive..too…all they want to do is live..love..and survive..OH GOD it’s so simple..but humans are to dumb..to be smart like this..for the most part now…as they have simply been brainwashed to hate..in extended ways of life….
When I lost all my emotions and all my feelings as a result from the horrible pain I had..I could more clearly than ever see the connection to GOD my cats had…and most of my personal philosophy about GOD is actually derived form observing my cats in those lonely years of separation from what I describe as GOD and all humans that are part of this GOD i describe..more than anything I know this thing I describe as GOD exists..as i existed without this thing I describe as GOD for over 60 months of living death..in effect…of isolation from ALL…THAT IS ‘IT’..if you will..yeah..that sound high huh..well It is…now.but was at the lowest point ever for those 5 years…
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Katie Mia Oh yeah..not only do I research alchemy.. I live It…as the freest of masons there is…
IT’s all through my blogs and makes almost ‘perfect’ sense to me..but most people except the alchemist leaning people have no frigging idea what I’m talking about…and some even suggest IT is evidence i am schizophrenic..which I am not as I see psychological professionals almost all the time..and have nothing but autism…as far as any ‘mind related disorder’…..
And even better yet..I don’t even need to research most of IT ..as it comes to me as part of a natural process of creativity…
Now that I have skimmed over some of It..it is the almost the same of what I have been doing..even the numerology system I created out of this creative spirit I have been under for the last 7 months..and what I dabbled in during short periods of my life..much earlier..in life…
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Miranda Flemming humans are so much more complex and complicated than other animals. I’ve always preferred the company of cats and dogs over many humans. I’ve already experienced ‘hell’ – that’s why I don’t fear death. And one of the reasons I believe the whole christian thing is nothing more than metaphor. I’ve suffered physical and physiological pain that many in this life nowadays never really experience. I’m not sure what a substitute for your word ‘god’ would be though – maybe it’s ‘living’ life with a sense of meaning, joy, purpose? Something like that? I don’t care for ‘eternal life’ and don’t fear hell doctrines. Life is short and I make my own meaning in life
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Miranda Flemming I do get what you’re saying (I think), but you do sound more ‘unhinged’ than usual
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Katie Mia Sorry about that I’m typing really fast and probably not providing as coherent a description of this as i could..but this is my most extreme special interest now..and i do tend to go all over the place with it…as it is so..so interesting..to me with so many potential avenues of exploration..
And oh GOD all along the way..my wife is nagging me about this thing and that..so It’s a little hard to stay focused on philosophy..when she’s saying get your ass in here and eat breakfast..and that type of thing..hehe..I’m just free that is all.. I was the almost perfect conformist all my life..and I am no longer chained in anyway.. to the system..if you will…otherwise people would not still be suggesting I am in special ops..as special ops is as conformist as anything possible..and I do still reflect that when I’m in the general public..even when I do things as ‘crazy’ as walk all the way up and down the mall in reverse…a great way.. I a might add to conquer all types of social anxiety..which yes I am no longer afraid of anyone..and I am in effect fearless now…It’s an art..this fearless..thing…
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Katie Mia And i’m almost using the word gOD as a joke..as it is really too adulterated to take back anyway..I’d just as well call it ‘Whatever” and I really do think..that ‘whatever’ describes it pretty well..even in a literal sense if you will…
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Miranda Flemming give me some ordinary word substitutes for what you mean when saying ‘god’ and ‘it’. God is such a loaded word. Think I ‘get’ what you mean, but not completely sure, as you are ‘rambling’ and sound a bit ‘out there’
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Miranda Flemming might be like the atheist that told Oprah that she feels awe eg at beauty in nature & Oprah ignorantly insisted that atheists couldn’t feel awe
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Katie Mia WEll unless a person..experienced GOD the way I do as this bliss.. I do not thing there really are any words that can adequately describe precisely what It Is..the only way to even approach IT i think is by using many metaphors to describe something so complex..yet so simple in actual life perception..if you will..The complexity actually comes in the description..and people in cultures have been using a myriad of metaphors in every religion and every myth to even attempt to describe this experience of GOD..and this is the thing..the biggest conflict IS..IS that not everyone experiences It..and some people may never experience It..so It is the difference in a flea and a dog for some people..with some people sucking blood out of the DOG..and never realizing the source of their nourishment..which I guess I OK..as IT doesn’t really matter what you call IT..IT is what IT IS..for each and every individual experiencing IT how ever they may experience IT in their..therefore ‘Whatever’ if you will as more simply expressed in my last comment…
Well anyway this muse called GOD has been and IS the ultimate muse for almost all things considered art and creativity…from the poetry of metaphor that is the bible…to the great works of art in painting throughout history…It’s all beautiful to me…even the wonderful metaphors of this thing called the devil…that does express the dark side of humanity..in only metaphor..if you will..
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Miranda Flemming http://borntoexplore.org/neurochem.htm
Brain Chemicals and Modern Life
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The role of dopamine, serotonin, insulin and other chemicals and how to achieve healthier levels.
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Katie Mia I feel like fundamentalists all of them..including Oprah..in saying these type of things are simply unenlightened and the way you live your life as an atheist..is more of what I understand as GOD than what Oprah is doing when she says things like this..in fact there are many atheists that better reflect what I understand as GOD than so called christians..Muslims..and other individuals in some of these religions…
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Miranda Flemming I remember studying Shakespeare & other literature at school – was metaphors of good vs evil. That’s what religion has attempted to explain (but doesn’t do a very good job of it). I feel more at peace observing nature and realising that eg animals eating other animals is not good nor evil, but just is. Beauty or cruelty are subjective. eg my husband loves snakes, and many people hate snakes. And at end of day, it’s humans that have decided what labels go on things including ‘things’ like ‘autism’. Humans attempt to describe the human condition. Humans have invented gods (and given them human traits – both ‘good’ and ‘evil’)
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Katie Mia Well yeah..that dopamine variant gene is probably what I have..and I think we discussed that earlier if my memory has you right in my mind at this point…I am an explorer not a sitter if you will…and probably part of the reason it was so hard for me to conform…even though I was an ultimate conformer when i felt like it was a life or death situation..but conformity..literally almost killed me..as I think It does to so many people later in life..on the autism spectrum….
So yeah ..now I’m free and the brain chemicals are like a tuned up race car if you will..hehe…and haha..my uncle said I was riding a moped before and now I’m on a harley..
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Miranda Flemming I posted a link to something about how Aspie kids tend to get addicted to video games etc. It’s because it gives them a ‘high’ – but after extended periods, the dopamine drops off and then left irritable etc. So, seems that Aspies get pleasure out of fairly simplistic things in life eg how one client’s cat was fixated with bubbles in the sink – I can be like that sometimes – stare at patterns etc
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Katie Mia Oh yeah..even when I was young and my sister cried about the cat eating the bird..I tried to comfort her and tell her It was only his nature..even when I first started talking at about my 4th year…
In my mind there is no good or evil…on these metaphorical constructs that humans have created in their imagination ..that we call languages..producing beautiful dreams..and nightmares.. too..
I am very careful what I feed my brain..as I do believe we are at least in part what we expose ourselves to..my dreams are only good..as I don’t spend my time thinking about nightmarish things…as so many people seem to actually enjoy these days..who likely2 may be separated from this thing I call as the connectedness in potential of loving ALL…
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Miranda Flemming I never watch horror etc. I saw some bits and pieces from babysitter and gave me nightmares. I don’t care for video games and restrict what type my son exposed to (ie avoid violence), but really hard to control the time he spends. I personally would not want to kill animals – I eat meat and am glad someone else does the horrible part
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Katie Mia Oh yes..video games and all screen activities with ‘light’ are dopamine stimulating activities..and through addiction particularly for those who are subject to the disease of addiction…satiety is never gained..and when this happens usually depression is the result…
But for people like me that are extremely sensitive to dopamine..It does not really take much to amuse me..eg..the reflections of the sun on the water….
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Miranda Flemming my son gets really irritable. He rarely gets ‘depressed’ but rather gets angry. Which then disrupts my peaceful state. He really doesn’t cope well with any extended time on screens – and he’s a screen addict. I just changed lock on my phone so he couldn’t use it
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Miranda Flemming yep, I think that’s it – we are like cats and dogs – find pleasure in simple things. I would also say that I’ve observed that some food chemicals eg histamines may make me feel more ‘sensitive’ which can be more ‘pleasure’ to an extent, but then pain eg inflammation, migraines, upset gut etc – inflammed nerve endings I think. Pleasure & pain have a fine line & I am more sensitive to pain than most people
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Katie Mia SAme feelings for me on the eating, killing, video games..horror flicks etc…I guess we live and learn and find out what is good for each of us…and some people unfortunately do not learn it seems..I always noticed when I played video games..that i felt empty inside afterward..and kind of separated from the emotional contagion that one gains with flesh and blood things..animals..humans..plants..trees..and all of that too…
But I still get it out of writing somewhat so I write…I write..and i write..and I guess I better eat breakfast now..before my wife…beats me up..hehe..so good talking to you Miranda..we have so much in common it seems..and am glad we can make it through the differences of some of this semantics about GOD..and the atheist and GOD thing in general…as differences in semantics often do kill love and/or friendships..relationships in general and all of that….
Oh yeah..and see your comment above now about pain…histamines and all of that and completely agree as these things affect me the same way…
The first clue for me that all my senses were heightened was before I could talk with the tactile sensitivity of not being able to touch man made objects and materials and every other sense is ramped up too..even the emotional one of emotional contagion..I feel everyone else’s emotions so strong in life..that I have only recently been able to find the boundary between my emotions and the emotions of so many others..which has been the main liberating force away from anxiety..as my anxiety was not even my anxiety in actuality..as It was the emotional contagion of experiencing the anxiety of others..which now I can simply block out with an iPhone and ear buds..with positive music..that I can get away with as I don’t have to work..but hard to do that at work..etc..and other demanding environments of a person’s focus and attention..
I like to express my ideas through the creativity of others.. and I think this video expresses that blocking out of the negative of other people’s emotions in a so simple of a childlike way..that really seriously will work in real life..sometimes the solution are so simple bet yet so distant..as the social norm does not match the ability to make the accommodation…I make them now..and do not care what anyone thinks if they are strange are not…
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Katie Mia OMG..just to let you know i liked all your comments but didn’t click the like thingy..and looking up wow..It’s hard to believe we wrote all that hehe..thanks again..Miranda..hard to find people brave enough to communicate with me..like this..haha…se ya later facebook friend…..Miranda…
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:52 pm Post subject:
MCalavera wrote:
So God is a metaphor or what?
If I am getting you right, are you saying that God doesn’t exist in a physical or literal sense, but that some people with certain qualities can experience this “metaphor thing” you call “God” in their lives?
Is that what it’s all about or am I getting you wrong?
Goddard Wrote:
God word was created probably like as metaphor. In the past the human beings used the concept of God like as explanations about everything that was mysterious and specially our existence and why this, but in my opinion, i understand that the concept of one word could be changed many times during the chronos and all tentatives of cultural representations about him could be sumarizing on ”the All”. Majority of theist people believes who the God is the architect of all ”things”. but i believe who the God is the All, like a unicellular organism that replicate himself, the self architect and us are also part of it, maybe one of the most important part of it, because we simply can thinkin about it.
It was my ”scientific” and neutral explanation to God, without bible influences. I’m more like as atheist than theist, but i believe that is too early to get conclusions. Even that supposedly not exist ”life after the death”, it can’t explain about the God. I think about the greater mysterious about the life, the universes and not about little things of the thinking ants. Why i exist, why exist the life etc etc etc
There many big mysteries to solve and to understand. I really don’t know if ”God exist” ”or not”, but while live in a doubt i’m live happy and optimistic about it. I like the idea of ”Intelligent Design”, everything is soo perfect (only humans aren’t ) that i ask myself
why this is possible
If us, the humankind, invent mechanical things so probably powerful forces by these logic could be created the life.
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:10 pm Post subject:
Goddard wrote:
I like the idea of ”Intelligent Design”, everything is soo perfect (only humans aren’t ) that i ask myself
why this is possible
Dent Arthur Dent Wrote:
What is perfect, massive weather events which destroy/change immense areas of land, cataclysmic events like Krakatoa or meteorites. Birth deformities, disease and illness abound throughout the natural world. How does any of this reflect perfection. Instead it characterizes a natural system which is dynamic and interdependent, which to some degree appears flawed and astoundingly wondrous at the same time. ID is simply the invention of people so hung up on their religious beliefs that they cannot accept the nature of nature itself.
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:47 pm Post subject:
DentArthurDent wrote:
Goddard wrote:
I like the idea of ”Intelligent Design”, everything is soo perfect (only humans aren’t ) that i ask myself
why this is possible
Dent Arthur Dent Wrote:
What is perfect, massive weather events which destroy/change immense areas of land, cataclysmic events like Krakatoa or meteorites. Birth deformities, disease and illness abound throughout the natural world. How does any of this reflect perfection. Instead it characterizes a natural system which is dynamic and interdependent, which to some degree appears flawed and astoundingly wondrous at the same time. ID is simply the invention of people so hung up on their religious beliefs that they cannot accept the nature of nature itself.
Goddard Wrote:
To be perfect is necessary the imperfection, look like the autism.
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:24 pm Post subject:
DentArthurDent wrote:
aghogday wrote:
DUDE I’M A STATISTICIAN TOO..
Dent Arthur Dent Wrote:
DUDE I could say I am an ALIEN SPACE CHICKEN. But without evidence to prove my claim it would be completely meaningless and people would quite understandably ignore my assertions.
Aghogday Wrote:
Well..I can prove IT in my case..It is part of the work I did for the government….
in my 23 years there…
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:33 pm Post subject:
MCalavera wrote:
I used to be able to do a jump spin kick while younger and I learned how to do it by watching Jean Claude Van Damme movies while I was growing up.
Aghogday Wrote:
That’s really interesting..I think a lot of people on the spectrum learn things just by watching other people on TV..in particular…of course everyone does it to a certain degree…
But I have always been good at replicating the behavior..or for instance.. even the handwriting of other people…
And yeah..I learned Kung FU from watching KUNG fU on tV too..that was kind of a tongue and cheek comment…
but seriously I really am fearless.. but not always..as when my autistic burnout came..I had one of the worse cases of PTSD my psychiatrist had ever seen…
Time heals all …I can’t imagine ever being scared of anything again…including death after what in totality I have been through the last 7 years..but having a death wish for so long…I can’t imagine wishing for death ..now..as all I want to do is live life to the fullest..and try to inspire others to do the same…that’s all I’m really doing here..as It’ s paying IT back for all the times that this place took my mind off of suicide..when I had the extreme trigeminal neuralgia dagger like pain in my right eye and right ear..for those 60 months..
There is no record of me lying about anything anywhere in over 6 millions words on the internet..Everything I say here is true to the best of my knowledge..but I am not infallible.. nor is anyone else…
But..Anyway..IT’s all reALLy thIS simple….
And in the bigger ReALIty..th@IS I A M only a secret agent for GOD….
Or LOVE OR WHATEVER ONE WILL call it….I cry for IT THAT IS ALL…..
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Miranda Flemming I wonder if those people that stick big hooks through their flesh and dangle themselves to have the pain-killer chemicals flood their body (rather like childbirth, I suppose) have quite a large threshold for pain and also a large gap between pleasure and pain?
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Katie Mia Ugh..sorry
IT took me so long to get back to you.. My wife is having me take her everywhere these days..and even another fair in another town is coming to take my attendance in a few minutes…I hate to leave anyone’s questions for me unanswered…
But on this.. I think that repression of emotions or whatever leads to the numbness of being is behind these desperate attempts to feel anything in life..
After being in that place myself for an extended period of time..I most definitely think this is a big part of it.. Although I did NOT have it in me to harm myself..I can remember enjoying being scratched by our cat…or even more horrifyingly so.. being stimulated in a way that was more positive than the numbness when my mother was choking on some thing…
Before that horrible numbness..I could not imagine that life experience could ever be possible for me…Part of the reason now that I am over IT..that I can never judge another human being in a personal way now..As their are depths of human hell that you seem to relate to …too..that are beyond the possible comprehension of most people….
So with that said..happy Saturday to you…And I am OFF to another fair festival on this somewhat cloudy and rainy day..here in Northwest Florida..but never the less another blissful feeling love day..@least for me….
It will give me some more opportunity though to practice my reverse walking and fearlessness… So smiles..that is all..see ya later…
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Another great post by White Pearl..and my response..below…
katiemiafrederick wrote:
Well..this is an excellent topic to explore and perhaps the best way to understand allahgodallah…is to understand fear..and the evil that only the human animal creates as an illusion of the allah TH@IS simply light..dark..positive..negative..action..consequence and energy..either..’light’ or ‘dark’…
First I’ll start with these words just provided on another website discussing the advantage of those who live the light as oppose to living the darkness and creating the illusion of evil..and or good…
The one who is one with the ONE exits as the one with the ONE who is one with the ONE..as the cycle of life th@IS……
IT IS reALLy a simple choice IS ALL IT IS…Animals never doubt thIS..only humans animals fear life..as only humans are death.
Human animals are born with two inherent fears of th@th@ISALL…
Falling and Loud Noises..th@IS..IT…
Every other fear is illusion..including black magicK..as black magicK only works on those who fear death as allahgodallah…
WEll..I will tell you thIS..I fear no human as I have the loudest voice of allahGODallah I know but if I meet a Lion th@ loud voice of roar tells me one thing and one thing only..hIS jaws are much larger than mIne..and he will surely e@ me if I hang around hIm too long…
So I leave..if I can…
And yeah.. when the elephant sounds hIS ‘horn’.. I move the ‘hell’ out of the way….
Well..back to allahGODallah..and the light of allahGODallah..th@ we as humans animals can increase as lightness or decrease as darkness..by the choices we make in life..and only light is life..the fear of death is all darkness….
I AM an instrument of allahGODallah..and so IS everyone else no m@ter the words used to describe the allahGODallah th@IS…..
And WELl EL is another word for allah that starts with a vowel and ends with a consonant..one hears the vowels of allah as sacred sounds of harmony of the ONE th@IS…
GOD is not a ‘proper’ word for ALLAH as IT is a vowel trapped by consonants….
And an interesting ironic way of saying IT as in the western religions th@ call IT thIS..th@ try to chain ALLAH with human animal words….
But the vowels of ALLAH go on and never end never trapped by some silly human animal…
wELl here IS the other thing..we can sIT around and talk about ALLah all day or we can be ALLahGODallAH…
TH@ too is a simple choice….
ALLAHGODALLAH IS always expressed best in MUSICK and MOVEMENT..SO dance and song is the best way to BE ALLAHGODALLAH…..
WelL like I said.. I have a very powerful voice and I will even prove IT in a few minutes..but first as an instrument as ALLAHGODALLAH..I dance ALLAHGODALLAH..THROUGH OUT THE SHOPPING STORES…to spread the light of ALLAHGODALLAH….
And I sing the LIGHT OF ALLAHGODALLAH..ALWAYS@CHURCH..and wherever else the opportunity arises..through words I find in my mouth as the sacred vowels of ALLAHGODALLAH ALWAYS WORKing TO SPREAD THE LIFE OF LIGHT..no matter the words that house those sacred vowels…
The WORD YORK..is a powerful word to do thIS with as K gives special power to OR as energy too…
You’ll see wh@ I mean in a few minutes..but song of emotion and these sacred vowels too..also express the heart of ALLAHGOD too…
I’m guessing you can open up facebook links..as they properly censor as your country would like.. I think..so these two links to me using my allahgodallah voice are provided for yOUR convenience..i hope..to better illustrate wh@ I am saying..as thIS…
I can terrify a whole crowd of people with my powerful voice if I make it darkness..but I can also make a crowd come alive in light..if I simply make it the LIGHT of LIFE with no other effort than the power of the love of LIGHT th@IS ‘also’ ALLAHGODALLAH
There is no black magicK for me for one and only one simple reason..I do not ‘SEE’ the illusion of black magicK….
OH but yes.. OH! YES..IT definitely works for those who believe IT..I could simply curse you and cause you to fall If YOU believe IT..and I charm you into thIS darkness with dark allahGODallah consonants of ‘death’ as only an illusion of death….
The best way to defeat these illusions is to laugh at them..the EAST INDIAN religions are GRE@@ doing thIS and the US us..es..hALLoWEEN for the SAme overALL purpose…
EScaping thIS fear of de@h by not facing IT..never works….
Better to laugh in the face of de@h..in my opinion th@IS…
So here are the two videos..I hope you enjoy my allahgodallahLIGHT in action…
Someday I will likely show you a video of me dancing through the shopping stores to spread this allahgodallah positive light toO..as I AM simply an instrument of ALLAHGODALLAH….
And NO THING else.
Same as ALL other animals reALLy.. humans are the only REALLY ‘stupid’ SILLY ones…
TH@ forget they ARE the power AND ENERGYof ALLAHGODALLAH..SIMPLY AS IS…
SOMETIMES THROUGH SILLY CONSTRUCTS OF DARK CONSONANTS OF WORDS…
EXPRESSED AS AN ILLUSION OF DEATH..FEAR..AND EVIL….
The things I no longer see..but certainly STILL witness in others STILL…tHIS DE@H TH@ are these ILLUSIONS….
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DentArthurDent
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:25 pm Post subject:
aghogday wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
aghogday wrote:
DUDE I’M A STATISTICIAN TOO..
Dent Arthur Dent Wrote:
DUDE I could say I am an ALIEN SPACE CHICKEN. But without evidence to prove my claim it would be completely meaningless and people would quite understandably ignore my assertions.
Aghogday Wrote:
Well..I can prove IT in my case..It is part of the work I did for the government….
in my 23 years there…
Dent Arthur Dent Wrote:
I suspect you have worked for the government as a statistician after all that is not so unlikely, but I am sorry to say that you make so many extra-ordinary claims about your abilities, experiences and medical triumphs that I have no option but to treat all your claims with a great deal of scepticism until you provide evidence for them.
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MCalavera
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:50 pm Post subject:
He’s a statistican, an expert on autism and psychology, a kung fu master, working for the government, experienced miracles in his life, and is so gifted he can experience God like no other, and he is a poet and artist to boot.
What is there not to believe?
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aghogday
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:57 am Post subject:
MCalavera wrote:
He’s a statistican, an expert on autism and psychology, a kung fu master, working for the government, experienced miracles in his life, and is so gifted he can experience God like no other, and he is a poet and artist to boot.
What is there not to believe?
Aghogday Wrote:
Well..just to set the record straight..as quoted earlier I did not say I was a kung fu master and I did not say I was so gifted that I can experience God like not other…I clearly stated It was a tongue and cheek comment per ‘I AM KUNG FU’ and I could show you an exhibition..’based on my mirror neuron viewing experience’…from watching the TV show with the same name….
And well…I can prove I’m a singer..did I mention that..hmmm..yes I think I have..maybe not in this thread though…
And yes we all experience GOD like no other…as far as GOD being the ALL as science already evidences this with research…as no two humans experience the same reality..but this does not set me that far apart from any other..other than I experience IT differently which is like ALL OTHERS…ANYWAY…
And yes.. I am participant in an international poetry club…It is at DVersepoetspub online..at this link..as I was the 11th participant..just last tuesday…in sharing poetry…
http://www.blenza.com/linkies/links.php?owner=dversepoets&postid=15Oct2013
And oh..did I state I have an exceptional memory..Yes I do..as I just corrected your memory…
SO WHAT ELSE would you like evidence for..you know? that is also my ‘autistic superpower’ as I am noted as doing exceptional research on topics on this website ‘for about 28 months’…
I do not intentionally lie ever..that is also in the record my friend…in the other 6 million words as already stated..just in my last post..on this thread…are you paying attention..if not..that’s OK…I rarely miss a word that I read..even at reading speeds of 10 to 15 times faster than the average human being…as documented time and time again..in my blogs and on this website..at least now..and well before2….
So I am an enigma…so what?…I paid the price to make it where I am..and yeah ..I’m awesome2…and people tell me all the time in real life..that this is true too..and yeah…even on the internet too..and yeah… I can provide links for that2..but aren’t you tired about hearing about me yet…I’m really not looking for personal attention..as stated earlier..I’m sharing this information..to inspire hope in people like I was before..with absolutely no hope..as I was before..I got well….
‘Dude’…that’s IS what is called being a homo sapiens..cooperating..and contributing to the overall success of the species..IT IS WHAT US SOCIAL ANIMALS DO..I AM NOT A HERMIT..AND I AM NOT A RECLUSE..NO LONGER NOW THAT I AM WELL….AS WAS THE CASE BEFORE ALSO…WHEN I GOT SICK…
AND as far as being an expert on autism and psychology..there is no certain qualification to be observed as an expert other than the analysis of other people who are well qualified in these sciences..which i did study in college…and yes qualified individuals have referred to me as such..If you would like..I can provide a telephone number for verifications but only if you expose and share your personal information too..as my life is pretty much an open book now on the internet..except for my last name which can be found on my blogs..but only if you sift deeply into the details..of over 6 million words…which I really do not expect anyone to do….
Fortunately I just sang at a party tonight and IT is being uploaded to youtube at this time..and will continue to be uploaded tonight as I am going to sleep now..to get a little sleep before I sing in my Catholic Church..this morning.2..
I’ll edit this comment to include it here when I finish..as just a little more of the proof you seem interesting..in..in this enigma that currently am I..that is described as such..by other people..in my flesh and blood community..reality2….
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:11 am Post subject:
DentArthurDent wrote:
aghogday wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
aghogday wrote:
DUDE I’M A STATISTICIAN TOO..
Dent Arthur Dent Wrote:
DUDE I could say I am an ALIEN SPACE CHICKEN. But without evidence to prove my claim it would be completely meaningless and people would quite understandably ignore my assertions.
Aghogday Wrote:
Well..I can prove IT in my case..It is part of the work I did for the government….
in my 23 years there…
Dent Arthur Dent Wrote:
I suspect you have worked for the government as a statistician after all that is not so unlikely, but I am sorry to say that you make so many extra-ordinary claims about your abilities, experiences and medical triumphs that I have no option but to treat all your claims with a great deal of scepticism until you provide evidence for them.
Aghogday Wrote:
Well..there is no suspect as far as if I worked for the government or at a high pay grade..as I provided a photocopy of my latest civilian retiree identification card in my latest blog post..at the link below..and yes..I also provided a photocopy of the way I looked before when I was sick as opposed to this week…that’s proof enough that I am not nearly the same person as I was before…just three years ago….
And like I said…how in the world do you think..I got retired at this early of an age..if it was not a medical disability retirement..and how in the hell do you think I curl 210LBs..with my arms..as photographed on my latest blog post..if I am not awesome in human health at the current..time..that’s only common sense dude..if you haven’t looked at the evidence yet at this link here:
And no I do not blame you for being skeptical about anything as I am an ultimate skeptic too..always seeking evidence for what I observe in life…I do not speak of the GOD I understand as GOD without having reams of evidence in the ‘data banks’ of my mind already…
And I already proved many people incorrect on their ridiculous theories that the Autism Speaks organization..was in some sort of conspiracy with the government to get rid of autistic people..which yeah..is gossip being spread by online folks suggesting they are autistic..
As I said dude..i am a scientist..my record speaks for itself here on this website..in at least 1 million words as documented on this website…It’s all in black and white…green and black..or whatever text and background colors one wants to use to view it….
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:57 am Post subject:
I forgot anthropologist as well.
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:31 am Post subject:
MCalavera wrote:
I forgot anthropologist as well.
Aghogday Wrote:
Thank you for the reminder..I forgot that too…although I did not claim I was an expert in anthropology but my degree is documented on my flickr feed in my blog at the link I provided and well.. so is my real last name too..if you want to wade through the over 11thousand pictures using my iphone i have taken since the beginning of September…in celebrating my birthday..oh yeah…and while I’m thinking about IT..people tell me I’m a pretty amazing photographer to capturing unique images of the ordinary things in life.. like clouds or the sun for example..as I really do see the fine details in life..as sacred my friend..there is nothing really complicated beyond how my cat experiences life..as to how I relate to and describe this thing I call GOD…is IS JUSt the joy of living..my friend…
I was a research associate in archaeology in College…pretty boring science if you will.. but never the less science..data..and the scientific method to reach conclusions on hypotheses…
Most of what I did..was dig…dig…dig…dig…dig…measure charcoal and bone..and other subsistence..materials..label…bag….dig…dig..dig…etc…get a really good sun tan…and stronger..and etc…digging..digging..digging.. It was actually more fun doing my research project on measuring garbage for bank teller clerks..to see who was doing the most work..for anthropology along with my job as janitor at a bank..telephone company..and my other job..as book store stocker..at the university..three jobs as whole working my way through college with the triple major of anthropology..health science..and social sciences disciplinary..and all the other fun things that go with college..like going to bars and dancing and drinking and singing until 2AM and all of that..running in 10K runs..and doing everything else that young people can do with their unlimited amounts of energy…
And yes people..even then at 22..people referred to me as “Superman”…and well I only have my family second hand accounts from hearing other people say that..and that is even what my coworkers referred to me as..shortly before my autistic burnout at my job as AThletic Director..having to do accounting..payroll..Full department management..financial plans for the many departments..on base associated with athletics..and moral welfare and recreation…including food service operations..I did It..all as I could do it all..and never saw human limitations..until my human showed It’s face..in complete and total exhaustion..from shooting for the stars..if you will..I still do that always..IT is my Autistic superpower in laser focus..and little if any understanding of any limitations..in life..as well as now….
And even better yet now..as my creativity is finally shining through…
And well..as promised here is proof of my singing..ability…I never sang solo before as I was a little shy with the Autism Spectrum disorder and all of that..but I do not even need a beer now to sing in public around complete strangers at a party..So for now here is the face book link to the video of proof..for those people who can open up the facebook links…until the you tube videos successfully load for this video and another one that provides at least some evidence that my claims that I have ‘cured’ the reciprocal social communication part of my Autism Spectrum Disorder..are pretty much true…generally speaking if anyone was trying to determine a reciprocal social communication disorder..from my posture…style of communication..facial expressions..and all of that….
Oh yes.. I am a qualified professional in the athletic..exercise and recreation field as an athletic director and a community activities director to go along with my degree in health science as also documented in my flickr feed…
And there is my degree in social sciences interdisciplinary there too..along with a photo of my County Leadership Class Award Plaque as one of about 20 people in my entire county selected for that leadership class in 2004…
And yes a photo of me when I was 13 in the blog post link..that pretty much indicates that I was at least a nerd in school if not an autistic person..just by my posture and unusual way of presenting myself to the world…no muscle tone..and all of ‘that’ too…
The only thing missing is the audio from the little oral presentation I was giving before the listening audience held back their laughter..from attempting to understand my ‘cocktail speech’ ..yeah..i fit the Gillberg criteria for Asperger’s syndrome in those days…as every check mark is checked even the language development delay until age 4…
So Yes..I am like the real ‘Forrest Gump’..not just an actor on a movie show…I am the real director.. actor..of my own play..if one wills…
And here’s that facebok link with more to come..when the videos finish uploading…
And if you think of anything else I left out in trying to remain at least somewhat humble..please let me know as I don’t mind elaborating..at all on any special interests as in real life I go on and on and on and on and on and on..until people get a headache..haha….I guess i’ll always be autistic@core…no matter if i am the life of the party or not…
hehe..?huheh!
Oh by the way..did I mention I was a natural born comedian too..you see..that’s not Rodney DangerField in the listening audience in that little facebook video..linked above…and I am kind of like a cosmic DJ too as I always pick the best music to reach the frequencies…of ‘GOD’.. on all my blogs..at least that is what people tell me so…..
And oh yes..here’s to the facebook video just now processed..NEWyork..NEWyork..where i become the life of the party…and yeah a little bit comic too…
and charming and all that stuff..too…
Oh ‘crap’..I almost forgot..I am a piano player..and I also create piano music too..
And yeah…I can prove that too..
Still waiting on the youtube videos for the songs..dam you tube can be so slow sometimes..in uploading things…and buggy too…yeah..I am a computer programmer too…created programs for payroll at work..back when DBase was in style…
LIfe is long live it to the fullest..or life is short and do not live at..all it is a choice..that IS ALL…IN the NOW my friend…
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:12 am Post subject:
aghogday”,
Goddard Wrote:
Calm down, is not worth.
Live without belief is not live, but wait the death.
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:30 am Post subject:
Hi Goddard..my fingers race about 130 words per minute..but I am as calm as a lake with no ripples my friend..aS IT IS THE SPIRIT INSIDE THAT IS ALWAYS BLISS IN THE NOW FOR ME..FRIEND…2..for always..now…
And ALL I AM IS belief in the life that is NOW..Death is no part of my LIFE my friend..as I AM TRULY ALIVE…THAT IS ALL…IT IS FOR ANYONE ANYWAY..IN THE END….OR THE BEGINNING MY FRIEND…3…..
AND YES MY friend..I know you speak of the otherS here and not me..but I canNOT help to love them anyway..even in their wait for death…as I am LOVE And THAT IS THE TRUE LIGHT OF LIFE TO ME..AS I KNOWNOW..AS ALL….
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:48 am Post subject:
Owww, amazing hability, you should learn to me what you make it!!!
Is hard to me for now to think in your mother tongue.
Commune with the nature, with the All, is to live on harmony himself.
Plato or Aristotles, i don’t remember, already say it
Live your nature, is a real happiness.
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:48 pm Post subject:
Goddard wrote:
Owww, amazing hability, you should learn to me what you make it!!! 😛
Is hard to me for now to think in your mother tongue.
Commune with the nature, with the All, is to live on harmony himself.
Plato or Aristotles, i don’t remember, already say it
Live your nature, is a real happiness.
Aghogday Wrote:
Yes..precisely my friend…this is the way I see…
And actually I feel sure many atheist friends feel the same way too…
Language is only a vehicle to bliss..bliss IS bliss…
It’s like the cocaine with no cocaine..friend….
Primitive people have been…
experiencing this bliss..
for thousands of years…
IT is relatively recently that this ART of Heaven IS LOST…
For the larger tribe if one wills…
With MOther EARTH!
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wELl..this IS the longest time so far..spent on one post on this blog so far..with 10 days now and the 36th comment here..@10212013
but IT is another 10day now in total numbers for one spirit1..so IT is time to move on2now2ALLAHGODALLAH..@the12thpostnow….
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