First of all…
The following is just metaphor and not to be taken literally…
please…
Full disclosure for the potential literally thinking audience..in the background..if you will…
‘God’ made me so beautiful..he tempted me to love my self forever and love no others…
I..we..US
After i learned this lesson..
I created A garden of eden in my yard where I could be ever complacent just staring at it’s beauty…
I still did not learn my lesson…
After this ‘heShe’ took my sight away…
OK i learned my lesson forever now…..
I will take pictures but i will not linger too long in complacency…
The pictures of my garden of Eden are in my FlicKr feed..do not linger too long if you will…
But please enjoy the greater beauty that is even in a grain of sand and even Adolph HItler…
Challenge !HUhEH?
That IS my lesson to go to that level in spirit and gain the empathy of 14.5 billion years…
I am still here…
i am a survivor…
‘God’s’ only Will to survive NOW’ IS IT as far as i KnowKnowK
KKK…
IT’s not what you think…
Do not judge a book by it’s cover.. if you will…
The other lesson..no hate..no personal judgement..all that exists after that is LOVELIGHTLOVE…
If one truly exists…
Of course..that is only my opinion..is all I ‘knownow’
True Will is only for one…
I know nothing else but LOVE
ALL else is all sp e c u la t ion…
That word is never one.
ONE IS LOVE
LOVE IS ONE
ONE IS ONE
oneONEnowKwon
Ancient American Indian Word for One Spirit…
NOWone…
Designed by me…
Simply me as one@ONE1…
And for4 you to hear…2too..
HERE
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KATiE MiA FredericK!iI 
Good to know ! The pictures are good as always 🙂 Hope you are doing fine !
Thanks LaLa..
HOpe it’s okay if I call you that…
I’m doing great..very busy in the ‘real world’ if you will..
I just took 874 more pictures yesterday..combination Church and mostly beach pictures..some of them are the best yet..i think..I am currently in the process of uploading them to my Flickr feed..should be ready in a few hours to view…
I saw your comment response yesterday at the beach on your site..on my iphone..and no problem on the late reply as sometimes my comments disappear too..as you suggested yours did2…
Lovexx
Oh Yes it sure is ok 🙂
I hope you get your things done soon which are making you busy !
You are busy taking pictures ? For what ?
Love 🙂 xx
Hi! Love Love Light Lala…
I am on my iPad in Tallahassee Florida,,early morning…
Limited typing with 1 finger..if you will…
I will never finish being busy living NOW as I am NOW T R U L Y living but W I L L…
Always have time to talk to you and L O V E you F R i E N D…
Taking Pictures..IS P A R T of my religion N O w…
IF you W I L L…
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L O L!
I S that? A joke?
Another great post by Cabrogal at this link and my response below:
KATiE MiA FredericK:
Human beings are not evolved to be alone.. The life of a solitary monk is not a thing of nature…if you will..
Separation is death not life..
Even in life..
There is nothing at all appealing about nothingness..it is beyond terror..beyond all fear…
It only makes one appreciate connectedness..which is the polar opposite of nothingness..
Separation is simply an existence without emotional connectedness..
There is nothing without emotions..
Just my opinion of course..
from visiting hell
or nothingness…
Connectedness is where IT’s AT..
Connectedness to ALL IS where IT’s REALLY@IF YOU WILL…
THE GREAT thing about churches no matter what the differences of opinions are…
In minute details are the human connections of ‘spirit’ they bring.. if you will..
The LIGHT of connectedness grows higher WHEN there are more humans connected together…
This is the GREAT thing about IT..the technology IT..that IS…
IT..really.. as humans can connect vicariously almost as well as in flesh and blood reality..
Given vision and auditory stimulus shared in a ‘human’ way if you will…
LIfe is NOTHING without connectedness..
That is all
i
knownow
And the next great Post by Cabrogal…
KATiE MiA FredericK:
I enjoy the ‘REAlity’ video..and of course agree with the balance and the negative as a necessary component of our human reality to attain the higher levels of light..connectedness..if you will as reference to my last response on your mysticism post…
But..it seems the video as negative.. as it is only updated through 1989 through the early part of the 90’s..again..it seems…
What it lacks is the representation of ‘IT’..again with reference of my last response to your mysticism post…
The freedom of information exchange that the ‘IT’ explosion has ignited in the world is phenomenal in my opinion…
Even to use the ‘simple example’ of White Pearl’s blog…
There is no way that the free flow of ‘ideological exchange’ would be attained at the levels they are now without this ‘new age’ of information exchange..again..if you will…
So..even with censorship..like you tube censorship and other websites..with the shared access as IS..Internationally again..there is the potential for greater understanding between cultures…
And ultimately a new reign of peace..World Peace even..Eventually…
That said…
I have not done anything stronger than Marijuana..drugs do nothing for me..except to numb my already heightened sense of perceptual reality..if you will..again…
But…
I have several lifelong friends that have done ACID…LSD..and associated drugs…
They ALL reference this as the gateway to the ‘real’ reality..again if you will…
And most agree that i am born with the gateway to get ‘there’ without the drugs…again if you will.. again…
This place of greater connectivity…
Per reference from that last comment…
Again..from your last post….
As a place generated by a neurological anomaly…
Again ‘Big time’.. if you will…
So I AM…
Born as bliss…
What….
Can ONE say…
It’s only connectivity….
Again..
NOW
ONE
NOWON
ONE
NOW
Here is the referenced video from the post:
More discussion from link above:
cabrogal permalink:
Yeah, humans aren’t evolved to be alone. But they aren’t evolved for happiness or transcendence either. They’re evolved to live long enough to successfully reproduce. That’s it.
I don’t think there is connectedness in the mystical experience. It is unitary. There is nothing to connect to or from.
I also think it’s both more difficult to attain the mystical experience in company – unless everyone you’re in company with has attained it as well – and more difficult to hang onto the perspectives it gives you when you are socialised. I think that’s why so many mystics are either full time semi-hermit renunciates or retreat from society for their mystical experiences (e.g. the Spirit Lodges of Native American peyote users).
The mystical experience is nothing and everything.
The mystical experience is death. The death of the only thing that can die. The self.
It’s not such a bad thing you know.
KATiE MiA FredericK:
MOdern science already understands the human decision making process is not even possible without emotions..so without emotions there is no ‘real’ direction in life if you will…
This is what i see as ‘true’ nothingness..if you will….
Everything else i understand to be only an approximation…
To get to this ‘true’ nothingness again..if you will…
Is not something that any ‘normal’ human being would seek…
Who would seek ‘human hell’?
No one i knownow…
No…
I totally disagree with you on this…
As you could not possibly experience ‘this death’ I am talking about..now…
And ever suggest ‘IT’ is anything but negative….
‘Life’ is only positive..
‘Death’ is always negative..
Light is Life…
Death is Dark…
But…
Again…
IF…
YOu…
WILL…
The death…
And the dark…
Can lead to greater levels of LIFe…
And LIGht…
As ONE
NOW
IS
IT
AS far as i…
Knownow…
cabrogal permalink:
But when all is one there are no differences and so nothing to decide.
Hell is the other. Only the self can experience hell. When there is no-self and no-other there is no hell. Only bliss.
katiemiafrederick permalink
I do not consider enlightenment anything ‘special’ in the ‘grander’ scheme of things..if you will…
As human beings are only dust in the wind as everything else is…
However..what I see as human enlightenment is simply what IS…
IS…
LOST…
Not something that was never gained.. again .. if you will…
Something we are born with to different degrees of perceptual reality when we are ‘children’…
Before the trappings of cultural illusions arise…
The ‘nothingness’..i speak of that is only darkness and death AS ‘only great’…as ‘IT” can separate one from the Cultural Illusions that arise from the byproducts of human collective intelligence…
IT IS impossible to transfer this information to another human being unless they experience this state of total annihilation of emotions as there are no memories or direction without emotions…
And It is only a turnstile…
Again..if you will…
To greater levels of light and life…
I personally think that the experience of ALL AS ONE…
IS…
The greatest experience of ‘ACTUAL’ CONNECTEDNESS AS ONE…
TOTAL OPPOSITE…
FROM THE NOTHINGNESS…
I SPEAK OF NOW…
AS NONE
IN THE PAST…
INSTEAD
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IS AND ALL SIMPLY…
IS
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IS
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AND as suggested earlier a state of being that most animals enjoy for ‘free’…
Except for the only animal that spends most of it’s life in an approximation of a ‘natural’ hell…
Again..if you will…
The HUMAN BEING.
THE CREATURE THAT CREATES ‘HELL’…
The only one i know of now….
AS IS…
KNOWNOW!
to me.
ANOTHER great post by Arinham Saha from INdia..
By the way for any new readers..Lala or White Pearl is from Pakistan…
And Cabrogal is an indigenous Aborigine individual from Australia..
So…
IN effect they are all indigenous..
and I am a mongrel mix..with American Indian Roots…
Sioux..and Cherokee…
Along with the second generation German/English native to Ireland on the Paternal side (grandfather) and Spanish/French on the Paternal side (grandmother).
With the American Indian and some more English coming from my mother’s side..of the family…
katiemiafrederick September 30, 2013 at 10:25 pm
When i was going to school with a triple major..i was also working 3 jobs to get through it as Janitor..Bookstore stock clerk..and archaeology research assistant…
It a nirvana blur if you will…
However..there is more bliss now..as i can finally relax after all the ‘real world “expected” work’ is done if you will…at 53…
22 was ‘was good’ 21 ‘was bad’ 47 IS HELL 53 is GREAT!….
Enjoy your journey…my friend…
IT is just beginning…
and SO
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Namaste…
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GAIN….
Beautiful Poem copied and pasted directly from Adrinham Saha’s Blog in Word Press, with my comment below the poem..
Come to Form; O Formless!
Arindam Saha
O one who gives the sun its glow
O one who makes the rivers flow
In whose praise the seas do roar
Come to form; O Formless!
With a mighty uproar
O one who flows in veins as life
O one who holds us through war and strife
The creator of smile on a warrior’s face
Come to form; O Formless!
And the world you do embrace
O one who is spread on the lands so vast
O one who flutters the flags on masts
On rhythms of whom life does flow
Come to form; O Formless!
With your majestic glow
O one who transforms the sweat into grains
O one who showers new life as rains
On whose arrival the earth does smile
Come to form; O Formless!
It has been a long while…
KATiE MiA FredericK:
Wow!
This is so beautiful in reflection of your culture’s ways..
My hope would be for humanity to approximate this ‘goal’ some day…
Hope you don’t mind if i paste this poem with credit to you of course in the comments section…
Of my latest post in my blog…
IT IS
What the Fishermen in my area would call a keeper…
If so inclined…
Toward Poetry in lines and hooks…
If you will…
And even books…
INstead of guns…
Most unfortunately the kind that KILL…
INstead of HUNT
My friend…
Thanks for sharing…
Your beautiful Words…
and..and lines and rhymes…
For ONE NOW
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NAMASTE…
STILLUNTIL…
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FROM THE WRONG PLANET website…one of my favorite individuals that does not quite understand the gravity of emotion..if you will..
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5663477.html#5663477
adifferentname wrote:
TheValk wrote:
I learn from hearing you speak. The public atheists offline are, as a rule, intellectually honest, polite and do not suffer from grandiosity. What I may say in conversations with the obnoxious atheists abundant on the internet lacking in all that (and more) is likely to have no connection with the respectable ones I’m happy to be acquaintance with.
adifferent name wrote:
Sure, there are obnoxious atheists – just as there are obnoxious theists – and yet obnoxiousness (or lack thereof) is unsubstantiated opinion without citing an example. By all means provide evidence of some obnoxious atheists, just remember that they aren’t representative of every atheist. In turn, I’ll choose not to lump you in with the Westboro lot, or with suicide bombers.
In their defence, even the most obnoxious and outspoken internet atheists are often still making their point in a logical manner. The message may be buried behind smug dismissals or self-congratulatory foolishness, but it’s still there.
Regardless of the large incidence of stupidity on the internet (often stupidity of expression rather than the individual), an intellectually honest critical thinker is capable of having a polite discussion without resorting to the same level of stupidity. For example, you can choose to play either the man or the ball, just don’t expect as much genuine regard for your views if you don’t choose the latter.
The main reason I don’t often post on these boards, or others for that matter, is that most ‘discussions’ tend to devolve into farcical name-calling or outright chaos where each side is making a great deal of noise, fervently believing in its own infallible logic or beliefs, oblivious to the fact that nobody is actually paying attention. That is, nobody is paying attention to the message – they’re far more interested in dissecting the tiniest error or perceived falsehood.
So my suggestion: if you want to discuss the subject matter with the participants, do so in an honest manner. If you want to discuss the views and beliefs (or again lack thereof) of atheists, that’s great. If you want to point the finger and label all atheists as obnoxious because of “some atheists somewhere that I’ve encountered sometimes”, don’t expect to be taken seriously.
So tell me, what have you learned by ‘hearing’ me speak?
KATiE MiA FredericK AKA Aghogday on the Wrong Planet WEbsite:
IT IS completely illogical to suggest that all that IS important IS Logic..
As Modern Science understands emotion and illusion to be reality underlying ALL Logic..
So who IS the ‘FoOl”..the logic or the emotion..
The answer is clear…
As the illusion..
IN your words…
That IS
HOW
we
learn from you…
That IS Those..
Who understand the limitations..
of the Illusion of the REality..
That IS..
and varying between every individual depending on neurological and perceptual differences in recognizing and perceiving this illusion we like to suggest..
IS reality…
AS none of US..at least as science currently understands…
ever sees..
The reality..
That IS..
The objective one..if you will…
OR EVEN COULD
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:05 pm Post subject:
Having a discussion about whether or not God exists between believers and non believers is about as constructive as a group of fleas riding on the back of a dog spending their time discussing whether or not DOG exists..while they may forget to partake of nourishing dog blood..if you will…
Of course that’s just my opinion..and a little parable..or analogy..whatever you want to or may want to call it..as ALL IT IS is semantics anyway..
What exists..exists..that is all there is to IT..
Some perceive some of IT..some others perceive some of IT…
There is no evidence that any two people perceive IT as the same..
So ALL of IT is simply a rhetorical discussion on the value of Semantics..if you will…
Or if you CAN SEYES IT…
That IS ALL…
From a distant view…
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Does any of this word salad actually mean anything?
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Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:36 am Post subject:
Does it have to?
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professionals can make a valid diagnosis of an ASD.
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:19 am Post subject:
Only for those who have the ability to ‘SEYES’
IN OTHER WORDS THINK OUT OF THE BOX.
PERIOD…
HAHA FNORD..YOU ARE ENABLING ME…
HEHE!
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:28 am Post subject:
By the way Fnord..your signature line while overall good advice…is not logical…
A ‘layman ‘off the street who is self educated could beat any licensed professional per accuracy of an ASD diagnosis..
Validity is only a semantic argument for the Social norm…
And Autism is a curable condition for those who have the ability to adapt..
Per the reciprocal social communication deficit…
So IT is all relative anyway..as the autism of yesterday..can be the opposite of Autism Today…
My trained licensed professional agrees that I found the ‘cure’ for my autism…
IT IS a documented FACT…
All it requires for some people is to learn to bridge emotion and communication in language…
Simple neuroplasticity…my friend…
Try some poetry…
YOu could ‘cure’ your autism2…After all i did…
The reciprocal communication deficit…that IS..
All the exquisite sensory experience is STILL…
WELL INTACT..THAT’S A FACT2…
AND YES..A DOCUMENTED ONE..
2tootwo…
WORD
IS ALL
IT
IS
Autism that is…the essence of autism defies any label…
That’s too deep…don’t even try to understand it if you will…
Or if you will go ahead..i wont’ mind..there are no strict rules in my out of the box mind…
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My favorite wise bird from the Wrong Planet Website..(baby bird)…
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5664869.html#5664869
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:14 am Post subject:
babybird wrote:
At this moment in time, I’m wondering whether God would exist if people didn’t.
HAha!
Good point!
IS humans who provide the label..
Of course ‘god’ would not exist!
If the label did not exist…
But the essence is ALL…
IT
‘never forgets’…
AS
IT
IS
IS
as
is…
IT
IS
ASS
(i added the extra S in…)
That’s how all the confusion startS…heHE!
Donkey or Elephant…
We all create GOD.
HEHA!
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For unity…
Now that’s a prayer…
That can be answered…
NOWON!
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:19 am Post subject:
I didn’t know I had to get permission to believe in a god.
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:52 am Post subject:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
I didn’t know I had to get permission to believe in a god.
People who believe in liberty don’t have to get permission to believe in anything…
And people who are courageous and brave are not afraid to speak up…
That’s what makes America strong..the historical one..that is…
There was a time when people would give their life for IT..
Those days are long since past..
For most people..
That is…
Of course that’s..
Not to say you would not…
Give your life for it..as there are some..
People left..like even Pop artists such as Madonna…
Who are willing to lay it all on the line for their liberty and freedoms…
Of expression..whether sexual orientations..artistic expressions..or freedom to believe in…
Whatever strikes one’s fancy..including God..Satan…the sky…the moon…or let’s just make everything sacred…
OH WAIT…that’s the thing called God..the essence of it anyway…those who make everything sacred truly live..as no others could..
Again..from above…that’s just my opinion…of course…
True will is only for one…
Love that is..
at least..
for..
me…
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Hmm it’s 5 am..i guess i better get some sleep if i am going to drive 200 miles today at 7 or 8 am…good night….
I’m making this post by iphone tommorrow on my visit to Tallahassee..
On the Dverse poetry open link night tomorrow at 3pm eastern time Tallahaseee FL…
I hope to comment on people’s poetry when i get back WEdnesday night..’god’ willing….
I type way too many words..and would go ‘crazy’ hehe..if limited to an iphone keyboard..and pecks of one or two fingers…if you will…
So maybe i am crazy…wait yes i am..
But I am dam sure having the time of my life…
What I else could i ask to be but mad..and in love with life…
Oh ‘God’!
It”s wonderful to be…
Alive.
Period..
That’s all that matters to me…anyway..hehe!haha?huheh!
Yeah…
I know…
Get some sleep….
Good night..Good morning..whatever..isis…
aghogday
KATiE MiA FredericK!iI
Oh well..
I Am ‘driven’ to make 26 comments..here..anyway…
With White Pearl’s comment that makes 27…
I am so popular..hehe…
My one
fan..
until the end..it appears…
@least for now..
She is the greatest to me…
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5664897.html#5664897
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:20 am Post subject:
And by the way2 Fnord the cartoon was extremely humorous.. even in a synchronistic way…
My yellow cat.. gold hair.. and even yellow shirt…
It’s all documented in my Flickr feed on my blog..
In my ‘great’ photography..if you will..
Take a look if you dare..or care2.
Or even like extra kool beach pictures..as the ones I took this weekend..
Are among the best ever taken at Fort Pickens..national seashore park…
At least.. that’s what the Flickr algorithm tell me…
I like computers.they tell the truth..
And never enter..
Into the realm of jealousy or personal human emotional judgement…
They are extra Kool3…if you will2…
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Well I slept about 1 hour and 15 minutes and feel as refreshed calm and relaxed as I use to when I slept over 8 hours before when I used to work..
What I find now is that the more I move away from personal negativity and my strength in ability not to be emotionally impacted even when people try to press my buttons..is I need less and less sleep..
A state of complete positivity is restorative in itself as much as sleep provides in total effect.. not unlike what ‘Yogis’ report who only need about 2 hours of sleep a night..
Positivity is a practice toward peace and health if you will..
I continue to become physically stronger and even leaner at 6ft and 222Lbs..so the physical impact of positivity is also extremely clear with complete positivity..
In effect I have actually cured the reciprocal social communication deficit I am professionally diagnosed with nowknown as Autistic Spectrum Disorder in the US..and Aspeger’s syndrome still in the Gillberg Criteria..the only real criteria in the entire world..that ever appropriately described what Hans Asperger’s described in his lifelong studies of this real syndrome..that yes…still exists.no matter what the American Psychological ASsociation attempts to feed the masses..as they where too ‘lazy’.. to go to the trouble to actually provide an actual ‘fair’ representation of this Asperger’s Syndrome from the get go..in 1994..the ICD10 did slightly better as it described the psychosis that can occur in young adulthood..but still was sorely lacking in describing anything but a disorder without communication impairments that is an exact duplicate of the social interaction and repetitive restrictive stereotypical behaviors and interests which is autistic Disorder along with the communication impairments that always have and continue to be part of the Gillberg Criteria for Asperger’s syndrome..only with a fewer number of mandatory identical criterion elements required…
My score of moving from 44 to 45 in the AQ tests that screens for Autism down to 11..is nothing short of a miracle my doctors say..
But never the less my journey to cure these reciprocal social communication difficulties are well documented in photos and words in my blogs..ETc..
The answer is simple..i see for my form of autism..simply exercising the ‘right’ hemisphere of the brain in an intensive effort to regain the balance that is known as ‘human’ that the illusion and practices of a vicarious culture often brainwash the folks that live in this illusion of society..and all the trappings of a hypnotic state of zombies that in effect have become our over all culture..if you will..
Well I better get on the road..so here is the comment..the latest this morning..with more to come when I get back to town on WEdnesday night..
What I find now is even in 1 hour and 15 minutes I go directly to REM sleep and as it was between the ages of 6 to 10 I have complete control of now visually colorful dreams in a first person narrative that is me..instead of the voices of all the TV shows I watched before i gave that up for vision problems over 5 years ago..
See ya later…
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5665117.html#5665117
appletheclown wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
I didn’t know I had to get permission to believe in a god.
You don’t. But Catholics think so.
Aghogday (KATiE MiA FredericK) wrote:
Actually I was raised a Catholic and go to church every Sunday simply for the singings as one with many people..connectivity..overall levels of positive..light etc.etc.etc…
The details don’t matter to me at all..even though I am well cognizant if them..
There is no hate or personal judgement expressed buy the priest in our church..and no jokes needed please about pedophilia and priests..etc..
There is a certain percentage of all men and females who are pedophiles and these percentages are higher among people who have access in positions of authority to young children…
The demographic of priests is all male and all priests have access to young children in positions of authority..so statistically speaking there is going to be a greater risk of pedophilia no matter what the church is..
Priests often stay in parishes for a full career..so obviously the chances of someone brave enough to speak up about the offender will also be statically greater…
I hear the same BS about parents of Autistic Children more likely to kill their children..
Well..mental illness is statistically higher among parents of autistic children…and mental illness is most definitely correlated with filicides..so given all other equal variables in comparison between two demographics..you get what the statistics usually say you are going to get..even if..there is no documented evidence specific to the demographic..as filicides are simply to rare to ever gain a proper statistical analysis..
The same with potential rare vaccine related side effects potentially exacerbating the known ‘ill’ effects of reciprocal social communication difficulties and Autism..the demographic sample is simply to small to gain any conclusions..so all that can be done..is to analyze potential general population vulnerabilities..l
Anyway..for any of you that think i am schizophrenic or whatever..this is proof enough in a digression..yes..that I am completely logical when I so choose to be…My right bright and my left brain are now equally developed if you will.. and in effect i have cured the reciprocal social communication difficulties I used to have in ‘real’ life in communicating verbally with other people i can even make small talk with complete strangers..with me initiating the small talk..if you will..
So back on point..the Catholic church..the one I go to is completely passive in judging anyone for believing however they so choose to believe in attending that church..they can even profess atheism or agnosticism if they so choose to do so…
So in other words my Catholic church..is super kool..even an extremely autistic person who parrots the mass seconds later after everyone else prays in unison only receives love from most everyone..and no nasty glances if you will…
And it is international in demographics..so everyone is welcome…even those of the dark skin muslim persuasion..you would never know the difference anyway among the other dark skinned nationalities…
The CAtholic church is a hidden gem in churches..that is still the most widely attending Christian Church in the world..
This will not change as far as organized religion goes..as there is sacred tradition in every symbol and word that is spoke in that church..that is one with the life of most of those who attend..just as is the case of those who follow muslim religion..and make IT an incorporated part of their hour to hour life..24/7/365 if you will..
But again the connections..love..acceptance of all no matter what the minority maybe is the ultimate draw to me…
And I do love all the symbols..after all IT is the ‘gift’ of my Autistic nature interpreting all symbols almost immediately..and finding the meaning in them…that the ‘average’ person never sees at times..even if I do my best to explain IT to them…
But I am getting much much much better at that these days..in real life..that is…
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not an easy lesson at all…learning to love the darkness as well as the light…and we have to love ourselves but out of that and our love of god hopefully comes our love of others….even the hard ones…the most ugly…seeing even a bit of beauty in them…as that will root out hate…such a strong emotion as well….
Yes..I..definitely..agree..smiles…
Awesome metaphors…Your poetic words are blended with comedy and political satire.
I love this poem of yours. 🙂
Thanks so much Charlie zero..so glad you could relate to my thoughts!
You’re welcome sir…
check out my blog poem. You will trip out!
Not sure if my comment went to moderation but I loved IT and yeah I ‘m tripping all the time anyway everywhere it’s my natural state of intention in another dimension..If you will..smiles …
I don’t have moderation on my comments. Everyone is free to comment without my having to add moderation.
Comment my post again. 🙂
Sure.. I’ll.. Again..smiles
More interesting discussion on ‘Is IT OK to Believe in God’ on the Wrong Planet Website:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf238546-0-270.html
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MCalavera wrote:
aghogday wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
I didn’t know I had to get permission to believe in a god.
Aghogday Wrote:
People who believe in liberty don’t have to get permission to believe in anything…
And people who are courageous and brave are not afraid to speak up…
That’s what makes America strong..the historical one..that is…
There was a time when people would give their life for IT..
Those days are long since past..
For most people..
That is…
Of course that’s..
Not to say you would not…
Give your life for it..as there are some..
People left..like even Pop artists such as Madonna…
Who are willing to lay it all on the line for their liberty and freedoms…
Of expression..whether sexual orientations..artistic expressions..or freedom to believe in…
Whatever strikes one’s fancy..including God..Satan…the sky…the moon…or let’s just make everything sacred…
OH WAIT…that’s the thing called God..the essence of it anyway…those who make everything sacred truly live..as no others could..
Again..from above…that’s just my opinion…of course…
True will is only for one…
Love that is..
at least..
for..
me…
You render God even more meaningless if that’s what your idea of God is.
It’s like saying the essence of it all is Satan, We are Satan, The Universe is Satan, etc.
Interesting that you would reduce all the elements of my statement down to Satan but noT surprising at ALL as many people are conditioned from early childhood that this ‘simple’ metaphor for the dark side of humanity is an actual ‘anthropomorphized being’ if you will..
This could not be farther from the TRUTH of the original writers of religious text..
The were all poets in effect…
The big problem was when people started taking the ‘original poetry of the bible’ literally if you will..and no this is not just speculation by me..scholars of religious studies.. have documented this ‘facts’ for some time now…
Most interestingly the same thing occurs with atheism..and this is just my opinion…as the same rigid beliefs about logic being all and knowing is the similar practice of suggesting the bible is THE TRUTH TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY…
In fact..there is not much doubt in my mind that the really strongest fundamentalist leaning people associated with religions and even terrorists are likely on the broader autism phenotype as they are more likely to think in terms of only ‘black and white’ if you will..looking at life in a literal way..believing in conspiracies if their ‘strict moral codes’ lead them in that direction through the illusory impact from byproducts of collective intelligence specific to their cultures…
There is very little that separates the people who believe that the Autism Speaks organization is out to eugenically ‘eradicate all Autistic People from the EArth..Muslim Terrorists..people who believe VAccines cause all forms of Autism…or abortion clinic bombers…
They all have one thing in common..they don’t have the ability to think in ‘gray’ if you will..
An Atheist is just another word for a fundamentalist..in full effect…if you will…
But that said..as an inherently classical pantheist individual that excludes nothing from the IS that I describe as GOD many Atheist suggest I am truly Atheist for my beliefs when the ONE AS ALL IS ‘IT” IS THE GREATEST ONE GOD imaginable..
That’s just my opinion of course..but Ii am very good at thinking in gray now…
ANd no THis is NOt always the case..as I too..when young believed whatever people told me..and rigidly practiced the structure of the religion I was taught..for acceptance from others more than anything else..and of course fear of that thing they called SATAN….
Big mistake…but IAM wise now..if you will…
I will that IS ALL i knowNOW
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B9 Wrote:
you seem to have twisted eyes.
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:11 am Post subject:
aghogday wrote:
Interesting that you would reduce all the elements of my statement down to Satan but noT surprising at ALL as many people are conditioned from early childhood that this ‘simple’ metaphor for the dark side of humanity is an actual ‘anthropomorphized being’ if you will..
This could not be farther from the TRUTH of the original writers of religious text..
The were all poets in effect…
The big problem was when people started taking the ‘original poetry of the bible’ literally if you will..and no this is not just speculation by me..scholars of religious studies.. have documented this ‘facts’ for some time now…
Most interestingly the same thing occurs with atheism..and this is just my opinion…as the same rigid beliefs about logic being all and knowing is the similar practice of suggesting the bible is THE TRUTH TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY…
In fact..there is not much doubt in my mind that the really strongest fundamentalist leaning people associated with religions and even terrorists are likely on the broader autism phenotype as they are more likely to think in terms of only ‘black and white’ if you will..looking at life in a literal way..believing in conspiracies if their ‘strict moral codes’ lead them in that direction through the illusory impact from byproducts of collective intelligence specific to their cultures…
There is very little that separates the people who believe that the Autism Speaks organization is out to eugenically ‘eradicate all Autistic People from the EArth..Muslim Terrorists..people who believe VAccines cause all forms of Autism…or abortion clinic bombers…
They all have one thing in common..they don’t have the ability to think in ‘gray’ if you will..
An Atheist is just another word for a fundamentalist..in full effect…if you will…
But that said..as an inherently classical pantheist individual that excludes nothing from the IS that I describe as GOD many Atheist suggest I am truly Atheist for my beliefs when the ONE AS ALL IS ‘IT” IS THE GREATEST ONE GOD imaginable..
That’s just my opinion of course..but Ii am very good at thinking in gray now…
ANd no THis is NOt always the case..as I too..when young believed whatever people told me..and rigidly practiced the structure of the religion I was taught..for acceptance from others more than anything else..and of course fear of that thing they called SATAN….
Big mistake…but IAM wise now..if you will…
I will that IS ALL i knowNOW
MCalavera Wrote:
Well, you seem to have me figured all out, it seems.
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:28 pm Post subject:
I assure you, even though you may not think so, I have it given it plenty of thought. I don’t say anything you might think is against science lightly.
I think we’re differing over semantics here, and what we call science.
When I talk science, I am thinking of scientific thinking.
When something happens, like a chemical reaction, or the sun coming up, you are saying that is science. I am saying that it is not necessarily so. Science is what observes things happening, makes predictions, and uses this information to explain and create.
Who’s to say that a car or computer wouldn’t have been invented anyway without scientific thinking? Or who’s to say that we couldn’t have thought of something even better? Take Einstein for an example. He didn’t necessarily come to his conclusions by following science – that’s how he managed to change a lot of scientific thinking, by thinking a different way.
Magic is merely something that we don’t understand. It’s as simple as that. If you went back 500 years ago and were driving your car out of an aeroplane, you would be doing this by ‘magic’ if we go by the belief of the popular consensus. Of course, you know differently than that – but imagine trying to explain to everyone what was really going on.
However, this is all on one level, and I am saying that there is a level beyond this. The God I am talking about has no influence whatsoever on science. You want to debate something that has part-aided, and part-limited Man for 10-20000 years, and that’s really not important in the way that I am looking at things, because I thought that this thread was about God, not a substitiute.
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:59 pm Post subject:
No, I’m talking about the scientific knowledge required to understand the mechanics needed to build cars and airplanes and make them safe for use, and about the fact that you have to have some really good trust in the scientific knowledge of others in order to use them. If you have ever been in car being driven by someone else, or you were driving it yourself, that’s implicitly a big trust in science.
Science is a well-established fact in this world. God is not.
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:20 pm Post subject:
MCalavera wrote:
No, I’m talking about the scientific knowledge required to understand the mechanics needed to build cars and airplanes and make them safe for use, and about the fact that you have to have some really good trust in the scientific knowledge of others in order to use them. If you have ever been in car being driven by someone else, or you were driving it yourself, that’s implicitly a big trust in science.
Science is a well-established fact in this world. God is not.
Aghogday Wrote:
God is only a metaphor for a construct and/or concept that Science does not have tools to fully understand..God is Love..God is light..the human kind..and etc…not a program on a ‘computer’..or a script in a play…
Science is not a fact…Science is a tool used to make hypotheses and potentially eventually arrive at facts..or approximations of ‘fact’s”..as any results from the scientific method are always subject to change..accordingly with the newest research study…
ON the other hand the experience of faith and hope are Universal realities of emotion that on average most humans desire in their lives..if at all possible to attain..
Some people are simply deficient in the ability to attain/retain faith, hope, or any complex emotion..and or not able to understand their own complex emotions in their learned languages…
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:47 pm Post subject:
MCalavera wrote:
aghogday wrote:
Interesting that you would reduce all the elements of my statement down to Satan but noT surprising at ALL as many people are conditioned from early childhood that this ‘simple’ metaphor for the dark side of humanity is an actual ‘anthropomorphized being’ if you will..
This could not be farther from the TRUTH of the original writers of religious text..
The were all poets in effect…
The big problem was when people started taking the ‘original poetry of the bible’ literally if you will..and no this is not just speculation by me..scholars of religious studies.. have documented this ‘facts’ for some time now…
Most interestingly the same thing occurs with atheism..and this is just my opinion…as the same rigid beliefs about logic being all and knowing is the similar practice of suggesting the bible is THE TRUTH TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY…
In fact..there is not much doubt in my mind that the really strongest fundamentalist leaning people associated with religions and even terrorists are likely on the broader autism phenotype as they are more likely to think in terms of only ‘black and white’ if you will..looking at life in a literal way..believing in conspiracies if their ‘strict moral codes’ lead them in that direction through the illusory impact from byproducts of collective intelligence specific to their cultures…
There is very little that separates the people who believe that the Autism Speaks organization is out to eugenically ‘eradicate all Autistic People from the EArth..Muslim Terrorists..people who believe VAccines cause all forms of Autism…or abortion clinic bombers…
They all have one thing in common..they don’t have the ability to think in ‘gray’ if you will..
An Atheist is just another word for a fundamentalist..in full effect…if you will…
But that said..as an inherently classical pantheist individual that excludes nothing from the IS that I describe as GOD many Atheist suggest I am truly Atheist for my beliefs when the ONE AS ALL IS ‘IT” IS THE GREATEST ONE GOD imaginable..
That’s just my opinion of course..but Ii am very good at thinking in gray now…
ANd no THis is NOt always the case..as I too..when young believed whatever people told me..and rigidly practiced the structure of the religion I was taught..for acceptance from others more than anything else..and of course fear of that thing they called SATAN….
Big mistake…but IAM wise now..if you will…
I will that IS ALL i knowNOW
MCalavera Wrote:
Well, you seem to have me figured all out, it seems.
Aghogday Wrote:
Sorry..if you interpret any of that statement aimed at you in a personal manner..as it IS not…
I adressed the scholarly assessments and my own personal opinions as such…
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:58 pm Post subject:
b9 wrote:
you seem to have twisted eyes.
Aghogday Wrote:
Thought I had mentioned it to you before..but apparently I did not or you may not remember…
I experienced the most severe pain documented in science labeled as Trigeminal Neuralgia..an atypical chronic kind that is one of the most rare conditions that humans face..for 60 straight months from waking hours to sleeping hours for the nights and days I could sleep…
If that is just a comment on how the eyes of my baby picture look..well I do have very poor vision with one eye with a substantial astigmatism with one eye much weaker than the other..so it would stand to reason one eye might focus out to let the other eye see at least half of the ‘visual story’ if you will…
If that was some type of attempt to press emotional buttons with me through a verbal slight..sorry you can forget about that having any impact on me at all..I am fearless…the most severe pain known to mankind experienced for 60 straight months brings a great deal of respect for all others and also a great deal of personal strength when this pain is finally overcome…
I’ve experienced more happy things in my life in just the last 8 weeks…than I ever could have imagined could be possible..even before I fell ill if you will…
An anonymous ‘barb’ on an internet site..has the same impact as a feather tickling my shoulder if you will..or in other words it’s only amusing..to me at least…
‘Harm one of my loved ones’..and It will not be pretty..not you necessarily but anyone…as far as THAT goes…
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Oh your posts are are rich with wordplay and metaphors. .. so much to read and so little time…
ONE IS LOVE
LOVE IS ONE
ONE IS ONE
oneONEnowKwon
Wonderful lines.
WOW!
What a wonderful comment and compliment…
So little time to write..So much to love…
But a word or even a letter…
CAn be ForEVER…
ON the ‘INterNET’!
And even comprise a Uni-verse oF!
Meaning if one wills..OF ALL!
But ‘their’ere’ ‘ISARE’ stILLplenty of time in Now!
To ‘right’ nOW..if one wILLs in Writing…2
SOSmiles..big time..thanks for dropping by…
HAha! even if the myth of Satan is true and not just a metaphor of the dark nature of any animal than can ensue…
Lucifer is the Angel of Light and Music not the ‘dam devil’…
Cannot even anyone ‘read’ the ‘dam bible’…
As what IT IS.. ‘a reAL METAPHOR’!
http://www.helium.com/items/2071399-lucifer-was-a-man-nebuchadnezzar-ii
EVen my wife understandS! thiS!..WhY? IN! metaphorical ‘EFFEcKT’!
sHE lives with some..one who Loves Light and Music almost better than anything that IS THE WHOLE THAT IS ONE…
IT…
iF ONE wills…
MusicK! IS! a HEAler!…
YOUtube!..is a computer manifestation of ‘LUCIfer’!..if one wills…
Lucifer..IS the Angel of Lightness..and LIFE…
Bliss..AllasONE..MusicK..Human Heaven…
Satan….
IS the Angel of Darkness…
anD Death..Nothingness..Abyss..Human Hell…
Both THAT compriseS God..the FATher..Lucifer seated at the Right hand of the father..the mother earth..the one..the whatever IS IT..Jesus..one human manifestation in poetry of the LIGHT AND LOVE that IS!
AND! MUSICK! and CAN BE DARKNESS2! and IN MUSICKAL DISCORD IF one WILLs..in darkness! INSTEAD! OF celeSTIal HARmony that IS LIGHT LOVE MUSiCKaCCORDingLy…
AND FLOWS FROM TRUE WILL LOVE LIGHT!!
SATAN seated at the LEFT HAND of the MOTher..the FATher earth..the one..the whatever IS IT..maybe Adoloph Hitler..who knows..only the ‘RAVEn’ knows in metaphorical ‘IMPACT!’..if ONe wills…
THE PHOENIX ARISES FROM THE ASHES..IS BORN AGAIN..LOVE LIVES LIGHT..TRUE WILL LOVE..WE ALL HAVE THIS POTENTIAL AS HUMAN BEINGS…
IT IS IN yOUR DNA..IF oNE WILLs…
SO! in total metaphorical ‘effecKt’…
LUCiFER IS THE ‘JamES DeAN’ of MUSICK!
AN ANGEL!
A REBEL WITH ‘A REAL CAUSE!
THROUGH HUMAN HEALING POWER OF MUSICK AND LIGHT’!!
IF FUNDAMENTALISTS SUCCEED IN TAKING THIS POWER OF MUSICK AWAY!
LIKE THEY DO!
IN SOME MUSLIM COUNTRIES!…
TAKE AWAY!
THE POTENTIAL!
OF HEALING MUSCIK!
AND LIGHT IF ONE WILLS…
THIS IS WHAT MAKES THE USA GREA..T!
HAHA!
GOOGLE!..
YOUTUBE!..
WIKI!…
AND ALL THE OTHER FREEDOM WAYS OF LIGHT TRUE LOVE AND WILL…
And yeS!
PortALs of darkness2..
Muscikal discord too..
BUT!
ALL of thIS!
Makes the ONE that IS IT…
IF! one wILLs of ALL….AH!
?seyes! wh@ i mean..!kNOWk?
having learned to love ourselves in our imperfections helps surely to be able to love those around us… some tough lessons on the way at times…
Yes..inDeed..thanks for stopping by Claudia and being part of the journey..smiles…