DUH!
god is not supernatural..
GOD IS SUPERCULTURAL!
WElL..
first of ALL..
many folks have their own opinion
on
what GOD even IS
but
personAlly
i am sure that GOD is a higher power we connect
wITh ALL THAT IS
on a completely natural basIS..
but lost in most of our western cultures..
and Oh! GOD! so sadly lost for most western
religions
2
😦
IT IS truly sad as folks look to GOD somewhere else
when the connectedness and blISs that IS..
IS!
centered in our
human
being..!
as well as all other beings..
2
Sad.. sad.. human beings..brainwashed to believe
they are separate from
GO
d
😦
and OH MY GOD! even what some folks
call Christian religions..!
That Jesus dude..experiences the one wITh ALL!
IT!
IS!
and the GNOSTIC..
Gospel of
Thomas..
explains it weLl..
http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/thomas.htm
for those who have entered into CHI..Kundalini..
QI..KI..
So many little abstract symbols..that house the REAL
POWER!
AWESOME!
ROARSOME!
POWER!
OF
HUMAN
BEING..
YAH..I CAN GROWL LIKE A CROCODILE TO
POWER MY CHI..
OR
HOLY
SPIRIT..
WHEN I LIFT 500LBS..
AT MY MILITARY GYM..
But it’s allowed there..as true warriors..
understand
the
SACRED WARRIOR SPIRIT..
CALL
2..
TO POWER ONE TO SUPERCULTURAL
FEATS..
OF
STRENGTH..
as in the local gym..
people would turn their nose
up to experiences of power
of
HOLY SPIRIT
like
thIS..
AND ARGH..IN SOME other religious expressions..
they describe IT as JINN or demon possession
needing an exorcism or something to repress this natural
HUMAN..
POWER!
but this is what culture does anyway..
repress the most powerful of all human
potentials..moreover in our western cultures..
every
day..
from the time we are born..
until now..
most sadly..
yes..
😦
Well..in my life.. i experience three of what ‘they’ describe
in Eastern cultures..as Kundalini spontaneous
awakenings..
one at 21 after the depressing effects of
being in college trapped in books away from
human social interaction…
At
47
at the bottom of total human exhaustion from severe
chronic stress at work..
for a last gasp effort AT survival..
And
YES!
JULY 22nd 2013..
or somewhere around that date..
coming out of the most extremes of
chronic human physical pain..
with 19 medically documented
disorders..
including the worst pain known to mankind..
type two trigeminal neuralgia..also known as Sluder’s
headache in some circles.. making the effective use of my
eyes and ears impossible..
for the pain..
IS searing.. burning.. throughout my entire being..
from waking to sleeping..
for
over 60 months..
And YES! the Kundalini Awakening..
bRINGS me back to life..
PAIN
FREE
!
AND STRONGER AND HEALTHIER THAN EVER..
REGENERATING..
MY BEING HUMAN
INTO WHAT I EXPERIENCE..
AS A FREE CHILD
ROAMING THIS
EARTH
!
SO YES…THE STUFF JESUS AND BUDDHA
AND MUHAMMAD..AND ALL THE OTHER
ENLIGHTENED FOLKS..
experience..
IS
TRUE..!
tHere IS a
HIGHER COMPLETELY NATURAL
POWER OF
BEING
HUMAN
THAT IS ONLY
LOST
THROUGH THE REPRESSIVE
AND
OPPRESSIVE
EFFECTS..
AND
AFFECTS..!
OF OUR MODERN CULTURES..
COLLECTIVE
INTELLIGENCE..
AND
YES..
SADLY AS A RESULT
OF OUR COMPLEX LANGUAGE..
CLOUDING THE APPEARANCE
OF WHAT WE
ARE
REaLLY
AS
CHILDREN
OF
GOD!
AS ONE WitH
ALL!
I
T
IS
!
NO
W
!
Well..my first two Kundalini awakenings occur
without any eastern cultural understanding
of what IS going
ON..
And!
without guidance of understanding
tHis higher power..
a
person in a cultural
overAll separated from tHis
higher
Power
that
IS
GOD!
can get lost in some very
scary roads..
to balance
tHis amazing power
of
human
being..
BUT ThIS TIME WitH THE BLESSING
OF PAIN..FINaLLY REMOVING ME
FROM THE ILLUSIONS OF OUR
COMPLEX.. BRAINWASHING..OPPRESSING..REPRESSING..
WESTERN MATERIALISTIC
CULTURE..
i FIND BALANCE IN WALKING
BACKWARDS..SACRED BELLY DANCE..
AND A TAI CHI WAY OF MOVEMENT
EVERYWhERE
I
GO
!
NOW!
BUT ANYWAY.. HERE’S THE THING..
i alone cannot bring this higher power that IS GOD
to one..not even to the most pious of so called Christians..
One finds it through one’s own path oneself…
But to balance it when one finds it can be done.. i’m sure.. through
leaving illusory fears behind..hate..jealousy..pride..dominance over
other human beings..
and all of the other
negative human being emotions and inclinations..
that bring folks
to what is knownNOW
as the REAL HUMAN
HELL
OF BEING
NOW..
AS OPPOSED TO THE BLISS.. i and
other humans around the world..
EXPERIENCE..
NOW!
as a thousand years of heaven in
simply
NOWONEFOREVERMORE..
BEING AS ONE
WITH
GOD
!
ALLITIS..
FOREVERMORE
NOW
!
And tHere IS NO
WAY TO DEFEAT A NATURaLLy
enlightened human being..
darkness of others..
only lights
the fire
of
Awakening human beings..
even
HIGHER
!
WE ARE HERE TO SHARE THE LIGHT..
BUT WE CANNOT
MAKE
one
DRINK
THE
LIFE
!
AND YES!..MANY OTHER FOLKS
like me in popular culture..amazingly
sing
tHis
song
now!
some of
US
HEAR!
IT
NOW
!2!
AS one
wIThAllITiS!
ONE
KATiE MiA FredericK!iI 
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5969771.html#5969771
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fibonaccispiral777 wrote:
God as a concept is defined by the fact that he or she is an eternal being and thus to ask who made him or her seems contradictory to how such a concept is defined. However, considering how we process reality, we cannot comprehend the idea of infinity since we perceive reality through cause and effect.
aghogday wrote:
Precisely..
QFT
jrjones9933 wrote:
And those facts make this a most entertaining topic. aghogday typed in all caps for several posts in a row and that does not happen every day. I think that I fully agree with the thrust of your thesis. Let me try to recap, and see if I did:
If a person will seriously postulate the idea of a transcendent force which accounts for the strange phenomena associated with quantum particles, accept such an idea on faith, and seek out that force in order to harmonize with it, they can unlock the true nature of reality by means of inexplicable experience of that force.
It makes sense to me that way. We had to get really good at science to know what we know thereby, so you’d only expect that it would take some effort to perceive such an improbable phenomenon. People moved further and further from using their senses directly, because measuring with tools allows for standardization. We amplified our senses thousands of times using tools, but maybe we left one of our senses behind.
Given the rather flexible nature of time and space as regards such phenomena, one might go so far as to deny the necessity of anything ever having first made anything. Everything is a first in it’s own right; categories are a useful convention, nothing more. The participants clearly feed energy into the phenomenon, so maybe they created it.
I’d like to add, for my own part: Let’s learn to train people to perceive this, then set about surveying the possibilities.
aghogday wrote:
Yes .. i agree.. i attempt to make my words and concepts as organic as possible as it is almost impossible to understand this force of ONE unless one is more fully experiencing IT..escaping our brain and body washing culture..collective intelligence and complex language that can cloud the essence of ALLITIS…
WELL..some ofTHE folks here are not too happy about my organic ways of communicating..
So i no longer highlight my free verse poetically described insights from my blog..
But ya sound a little interested so here is my latest blog post linked effort as I do EXPERIENCE WHAT EASTERN philosophies..describe as bliss or nirvana..almost every waking second..
(god IS SUPERCULTURAL)
And nah..i lived in REAL human hell many years…so i can discern this ..IT IS REAL..and i live in what Eastern philosophies describe as BLISS OR NIRVANA..almost every second of NOW..so i would love to spark something ..anything..in anyone that maY take them to that most wonderful life experience that i knowNOW!..IN their own journey of life..a detour on THEIR PATH to get tHere..perhaps!
But yah..IT IS like taking the horse to the water..one cannot make one drink…the water..of life..as what i see the
ALLITIS the force of ONE!
But there IS always the possibility to spark a connection in someone’s life along their journey in life to eventuALLy hopeFULLy arrive at Bliss and or Nirvana..and stay there forevermoreNOW!
..Similar to my life experience NOW! i think..NOT TOO MUCH..i just DO IT..i experience thIS BLISS or Nirvana largely by escaping the logical mind of reductionism of a STILL very mysterious existence OVERALL!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:40 am
I had meant to add something about that, myself, but I felt I had already gone on too long. tl;dr All is one, and so are you if you choose to and seek it.
You have to do all that yourself, though. Not even your god can do it for you. It’s a weird sort of experiment and it only makes economic sense for a few people to risk it at this time. A different economic system could create more such opportunities. You have to fully commit to something unprovable which remains unprovable until you fully commit. You may even have to fully commit for many years, so it’s a huge investment of resources. That makes it a risky experiment, especially when you go in knowing that you can’t communicate your results in full, even if you somehow succeed. Others also have to choose, seek, and experience it for themselves in order to hone their own perceptions to perceive it.
aghogday
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Yes i totally agree..this is more or less leisure activity for me..i am retired and financially independent..and my wife takes care of most all of the day to day mundane chores of life..
Interestingly.. many of the so called enlightened individuals in history are folks either born into privilege or folks that are in a free place like this to DO AS THEY WILL..without the chains of culture..that do require a person to fit a normed mold to survive..and that is most definitely what i had to do to survive..until i gained financial independence..and could even afford to be totally free to pursue my own true will..without the interference of other folks..or without the societal requirement to fit the social norm…
I use the abstract symbol GOD.. but it is an energy of life to me..per positive..negative..dark..light..action..consequence and human flavored emotional..energetic..feelings and sensory perceptions overall…
There is no static form as far as i see..and for all i know this force may be expressed in someone else’s life much different than mine..
As a silly little human being..i for one.. am not gonna be the one with all the answers..by far…or one to attempt to imprison the force that is GOD..in my own little illusion of what i understand as existence..in the ALLITIS…
Part of why i come here..is to hear the experiences of others..either negative..positive..dark or light..It is all part of the game of existence..that makes it ALL happen as far as i see….and i leave no stones unturned in my personal enlightening journey @ALL..
I always learn something from everyone i encounter..but i keep an open mind..
That is the greatest skill i have..
An open mind…
And in my opinion an open mind can be cultivated in the most closed of minds..
IF WILL persists…
And as a hyperlexic flavored autistic individual.. i read about 10 to 15 times as fast as the average human being..and type about 130 words a minute..so i do tend to go on and on..
But that is the nature of the BEAST i am…
i cannot imagine what a mind any slower would be ..unless i am comatose ..i guess…..
But ‘trust me’ IT is much slower and less of a headache..in volume and complexity in ever changing topics of information..than when i talk..in REAL LIFE…
AND my wife could tell ya all about that..in real life..2..;)and most of the others folks in my REAL life too….
HUMAN BEING FLESH AND BLOOD NON VERBAL communication is approximately 93% OF FULL HUMAN COMMUNICAITON..
THE CHI POWER I EMANATE..in real life..is much more than can be experienced in words or photos..or even videos on a silly little internet connection..it’s about 10% of the whole equation..of my spiritual being..human…
It’s A HUGE PART OF why the bible doesn’t work well to get the FULL MESSAGE..OF WHAT HUMAN POTENTIAL REALLY IS…
THERE IS A GOOD REASON..some folks may have viewed Jesus as a hand of GOD in real life..
There is usually no mistaking and no forgetting an enlightened person in REAL life…
In fact..i wager..that anyone here..could call any store clerk in the Pensacola metro area in Florida..
and just ask about the big guy with sunglasses..who dances in reverse in stores..
And they could tell anyone here..much more about the real life.. me…
i get around..;)AND AROUND…
MUCH MUCH FURTHER..THAn this internet avenue for communication…:)
BUT I WILL IT..WITH THE ALL THAT IS..
THAT IS ALL…AS me as one WITH ONE!
But i could likely not do it..unless i am able to escape cultural norms..all the negative con-social emotions of life..illusory fears..
AND JUSTLY DO IT completely under..and OVER..
SACRED LOVE..
THAT IS WHAT EMPOWERS ME THE MOST..THE BLISS OF SACRED LOVE..ESCAPING ALL THE NEGATIVE AND DARK OF LIFE..AND ONLY VISITING it when i so choose to do so….either in REAL life..or here…in this small approximation of flesh and blood REAL life human and mother nature…interaction….:)
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experience god in the NOWENFORVERMORE in this moment…love that bit there in the middle man…and so true in how you can not make one see the light….they have to experience it themselves…find it…see it…themselves…
Thanks Brian and love your improvisation..on ‘NOWENFORVERMORE”!
AND YES living in the dark..with no faith.. hope..or even the memory of what a smile felt like..I know the darkness all to well..but i hope my story as dark as it was ..might give someone hope AND OR WILL! for another now..wHere light IS shining soul bright in spirit…AND POWER OF STAR!
IN SACRED LOVE..
AS ALLITIS!
ONESACREDLOVE!
Really liked the idea of God being “supercultural”… and yes, to everyone it is one’s own faith and understanding that paves the way of spirituality.
One’s own initiative and bearing comes out to be the most important thing in recognizing what one chooses to recognize. 🙂
-HA
Hi! Ha! and by the way..anmol is a beautiful name..!
It would be very hard i think..for me ever to be the light..as i observe IT and walk with IT in approximations..under culture..in past..but losing culture without effective use of eyes or ears..for over 60 months.
IS the greatest blessing of my life…as i finAlly completely lose culture..all is left..
is me and me facing the formless being…
As i am now.. natural light..
and nah.. that ain’t
a
beer..;)but i’ll have another
drink
of
IT
NOW..:)
Ho .. yes.. the concept of god has to be lived (and truly is supercultureal) and cannot be understood … but it’s also personal… nice thoughts here.
Thanks Bjorn..from wHere i live..’IT’ IS ..often described in structured churches as a friend outside waiting to be found..and worshipped..while i truly see it as a force inside and out..i praise and in gratitude thank..throughly.. everywHereASONE..wHere moreover than any place.. the beach in my gulf coast Florida area..teaches me this through life..separated by work and culture..but married again with nature as ONENOW!reTIRED..fully wheeled in a Golden Spiral of ONE!
I believe god should be thought of as INSIDE US, rather than WATCHING OVER US.
God is to truly believe in who you are in my opinion
That’s a beautiful thought Desmond..i feel it off and on inside of me throughout my life..and sporadically outside of me as a connecting force of all..and i experience all as ONE now..just a flow of what i am as IS..IS:)
Thanks for stopping by..:)2..
I have grown up with the mystic references to waking of kundalini and always wondered the truth behind it – and I like your statement – God is multicultural is a powerfully correct statement.
Thanks Abhra.. My locality is a very repressed fundamentalist red state area in the states..per Republican almost everything..and repression of most anything related to human sexuality and sensuality…along with fear to subjugate folks for material gains..from those individuals with social status and power…
And i too..although liberal in politics..am repressed in my sexual and sensual repressions..until my middle teens starting late..as a sensual human being..freely expressing himself…
What i truly believe is there can be no Kundalini awakening or basic spiritual awakening..without an open sacred chakara..which includes the sensuality..creativity..sexuality..and emotional openness of freely expressing being human…
And what i come to understand now..is that Muhammad..Buddha..Jesus..and any enlightened human being..including some artists in popular culture..has every hair standing up on their being..per sensual metaphor..for true enlightenment…
IN fact..i would not be surprised at all if the human Jesus..did partake of the gifts of prostitutes in the time and place he was in..the metaphors of the kingdom of heaven..in NOW.. being a place with no ownerships of other human beings..in marriage..clearly alludes to this..in my interpretation..of what is left of ‘truth’ IN standardized biblical and gnostic text…
And not only that but our closest primate ancestor the bonobo shares the similar human empathy gene..without restricted fertility in times of year..like other primates..like the chimpanzee and great apes..
And the chimpanzee..is often referenced to human being..as our nature of overall aggression ..rape.. and other patriarchal ways of being…
However..our closer relative with the empathy gene and continuous fertility is an overall peaceful loving primate..the bonobo who..greets others with expressions of sexuality to resolve differences of temperament..
So i suppose a bonobo may live in a constant state of Kundalini awakening..as i certainly do not limit this state of perceptual experience and power..to the social animal.. human being…
They most definitely seem to have a very very open second chakra..at least..for an incredibly sexually and sensually creative primate species..
So we do the similar..now with porn..revealing and sexually enhancing clothes..and sex to sell stuff every where we turn..now that censorship and repression ..from the old religious and ‘state’ right..is fading away with our greater freedoms..of modern culture…
But with all the uproar..at about 50-50.. over freedom of expression..like Miley Cyrus..using her basic human sensuality and sexuality in a way out of the box artistic expression..the times are a changing..and humans will likely fall back on the early 60’s in free love..BUT WAIT..;)THEY already do in a vicarious socially accepted way..with the expanse of online porn..where anything goes..for legally consenting adults..
The human mirror neuron system..can play almost as well vicariously as in person..in flesh to flesh fuller communication..so vicarious human sensuality and sexuality in full freedom..will likely pave the way ..for more folks to experience Kundalini..or however one may describe and name..this similar spiritual energy type awakening..generated from the second chakra of physical and overall emotional creativity..that keeps the world of humans inspired..motivated..for all types of productivity shared with ‘special’ skills..of amazing diversity..to keep the species going..and adapting to fast moving cultural changes..to basically survive..better..in the longer run…
It’s definitely an exciting time to be alive..as the human race may actually flower..instead of withering away…
The core issue though in my opinion..is freeing people from religious and state driven repression..of human sensuality..sexuality..and oppression and subjugation through fear..against others for material gains..instead of sharing our connectedness.. to truly flower..a HUMAN SPRING of what i describe as the unconditional love of SACRED LOVE!
And..the information..highway iS certainly paving A way…
And haha..i am adding some verses tHere..
per the metaphorical..’UNI-VERSE’..OF HUMAN FULLY EXPRESSED CREATIVITY!
NO HOLDS BARRED FOR ME..FOR WHAT IS LEGALLY AND ETHICALLY A WAY TO GO..!:)
THE INFORMATION HIGHWAY..takes me ‘right’ our of my red state repressed area..and into
TOTAL HUMAN FREEDOM VICARIOUSLY EXPRESSED..AT least..and at last.. as fully
being human!
glad you are pain free!
It’s truly a miracle..for me..thanks billgnc..and perhaps the most incredible thing..IS..i am completely in faith that it will never return..as i truly feel i have the power to control my body to prevent that..but the subtle ways i do it..i cannot find words adequate to describe the actual feeling of this experience..in healing power of mind and subtle universal energy..of the Kundalini..CHI..Qi..KI..OR WHATEVER OR HOWEVER ONE WANTS TO DESCRIBE The higher human power..for human potential..strength..in being more than most any person could ‘scientifically’ imagine themselves to be…!
A fully open mind.. in my opinion ..IS the first step to get ..’tHere’!
And my greatest life skill..IS a TOTALLY OPEN MIND..AS FAR AS i see!